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Old 16 February 2019, 15:46
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Close Combat Lethality Task Force

Close Combat Lethality Task Force was formed by former SECDEF Mattis. https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/D...DTM-18-001.pdf

seemed from reading the threads at https://news.google.com/search?q=%22...S&ceid=US%3Aen

that the task form will recommend all 10 Army divisions to be more like the 75th Ranger Regiment.
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Old 16 February 2019, 18:44
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If the SecDef needs to publish a Directive Type Memorandum that will be turned into a DoD Directive to remind the DoD to focus on building the best infantry units possible the next major regional contingency is already lost.

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Old 17 February 2019, 03:16
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Step 1: have the Divisions dress snappier so they’ll feel special too. Maybe they’ll start acting special.

2. Issue them a mandatory dog tag they’ll never read about things they don’t care about, after the wallet cards go in the garbage.

3. Write little pocket sized books that they’re supposed to carry but no one reads or references unless a leader wants to hem up a subordinate over a violation of that book’s rules some arbitrary day, without going to the trouble of writing a counseling statement, because that’s too much work. Put a blue cover on it.

4. I didn’t read the article... but maybe, just maybe someone demand and hold accountable leaders within those divisions to actually enforce the standards on the books already, and quit worrying about maybe being the bad guy.

5. Maybe get those division a training budget that results in decent training.

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Old 17 February 2019, 15:30
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All they need is a new beret color! LOL

I welcome any and all attempts to actually make the Army more leathal. I'm not going to entertain the thought of 10 divsions becoming like the 75th, but some of the MOUT and weapons training is clearly in the infantry battalions realm.
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Old 17 February 2019, 18:58
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All they need is a new beret color! LOL

I welcome any and all attempts to actually make the Army more leathal. I'm not going to entertain the thought of 10 divsions becoming like the 75th, but some of the MOUT and weapons training is clearly in the infantry battalions realm.
Perhaps leaders should put more emphasis on training than painting rocks, holding useless formations, or other activities not essential to fighting.
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Old 17 February 2019, 20:54
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14 pages of verbiage and acronyms with very little real substance all to say something that really is an implied task, try to always be doing better. Really, you need a Flag Officer or SES equivalent to make this happen?

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Why do we need more light infantry? Light infantry is for broke-assed countries with excess manpower, like India or anywhere in Africa.

We should be going the opposite direction with the US Army, heavy up, more tanks and artillery, and an effective infrastructure to deliver same to a battlefield. And fewer staff and pogues, because they're just dead weight, in any type of military.

But since pogues are in charge, that's not what will happen. S/F....Ken M
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If the SecDef needs to publish a Directive Type Memorandum that will be turned into a DoD Directive to remind the DoD to focus on building the best infantry units possible the next major regional contingency is already lost.

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Not to worry, that shit will all take care of itself as long as everyone is signed off on their SAPR and Govt Travel Card training.
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Why do we need more light infantry? Light infantry is for broke-assed countries with excess manpower, like India or anywhere in Africa.

We should be going the opposite direction with the US Army, heavy up, more tanks and artillery, and an effective infrastructure to deliver same to a battlefield. And fewer staff and pogues, because they're just dead weight, in any type of military.

But since pogues are in charge, that's not what will happen. S/F....Ken M
The "Megacity Siege Task Force" is a different DoD Directive.



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The initial 2 Ranger Battalions were reactivated in the late 70's Post Viet Nam with a very similar mission..... To build the best Infantry NCO and Officer Corps available and then disseminate them back into the regular Army. (Kinda like herd immunity, only in reverse, Oh the cross thread points). How much of that still occurs now, I have no idea. When you factor ETS, guys that go to selection for an SMU or SF or other personnel draws, how many go back to the regular Army now? With 40 years of amassing GO headquarters units and the SOF tiering process, I wonder if it is even a remote consideration anymore.
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Step 1: have the Divisions dress snappier so they’ll feel special too. Maybe they’ll start acting special.

2. Issue them a mandatory dog tag they’ll never read about things they don’t care about, after the wallet cards go in the garbage.

3. Write little pocket sized books that they’re supposed to carry but no one reads or references unless a leader wants to hem up a subordinate over a violation of that book’s rules some arbitrary day, without going to the trouble of writing a counseling statement, because that’s too much work. Put a blue cover on it.

4. I didn’t read the article... but maybe, just maybe someone demand and hold accountable leaders within those divisions to actually enforce the standards on the books already, and quit worrying about maybe being the bad guy.

5. Maybe get those division a training budget that results in decent training.

I’m glad I’m retired.
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Interestingly, Life is a Special Operation posted this over the weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFXPLpzfWuo
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Old 18 February 2019, 11:06
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Well he stayed away from my Marine Corps
Well, not really: Scales included Marine infantry in his report. I didn't read it to mean make infantry like SOF to be SOF; rather, I read it that infantry should be recruited, selected, trained, and retained, like the services do with SOF. To be fair, he also used the Navy nuclear sub program as an analogy.
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The initial 2 Ranger Battalions were reactivated in the late 70's Post Viet Nam with a very similar mission..... To build the best Infantry NCO and Officer Corps available and then disseminate them back into the regular Army. (Kinda like herd immunity, only in reverse, Oh the cross thread points). How much of that still occurs now, I have no idea. When you factor ETS, guys that go to selection for an SMU or SF or other personnel draws, how many go back to the regular Army now? With 40 years of amassing GO headquarters units and the SOF tiering process, I wonder if it is even a remote consideration anymore.
Who wants to go to regular army after 75th?! No one. The concept failed in that aspect.
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Old 18 February 2019, 23:57
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From what I understand, they're supposed to be looking at things like more lethal ammunition, light body armor, batteries, night vision, improved fitness, etc. I know the Army is looking at making extending BCT to 22 weeks for all combat arms, and bringing back some of the things they dropped like night land nav.
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