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Old 20 April 2017, 06:46
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I got out of the navy in 2015, I just graduated paramedic in Orlando. been looking into overseas contracting. how do i go through WPS/PSS training. 6years active/2 years reserve. any guidance would be helpful.
Requirements are all posted for the jobs when they get posted. DOS side of the house you need 1 Year High Threat ie Deployment time and 3 years medical experience

You will be required to have at least a national registry EMT-A or EMT-P cert. There are some projects that aren't WPS2 yet but by the time you would be getting deployed they will have all gone that way..
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Old 20 April 2017, 06:48
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Requirements are all posted for the jobs when they get posted. DOS side of the house you need 1 Year High Threat ie Deployment time and 3 years medical experience

You will be required to have at least a national registry EMT-A or EMT-P cert. There are some projects that aren't WPS2 yet but by the time you would be getting deployed they will have all gone that way..
To add to the above you said you just graduated. Were you a Corpman before? If not best advice is to get some medical experience under your belt nobody is going to hire a brand new medic with no experience...
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Old 20 April 2017, 07:32
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Requirements are all posted for the jobs when they get posted. DOS side of the house you need 1 Year High Threat ie Deployment time and 3 years medical experience

You will be required to have at least a national registry EMT-A or EMT-P cert. There are some projects that aren't WPS2 yet but by the time you would be getting deployed they will have all gone that way..
When is the 1 year of high threat deployment time becoming mandated down the pipeline? I've seen a few PSS AEMT/EMT-I positions which require the 1 year of high threat experience, however there's a couple of Paramedic positions which only require the 3 years of emergency medical experience as a pre-req currently..
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Old 20 April 2017, 07:39
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When is the 1 year of high threat deployment time becoming mandated down the pipeline? I've seen a few PSS AEMT/EMT-I positions which require the 1 year of high threat experience, however there's a couple of Paramedic positions which only require the 3 years of emergency medical experience as a pre-req currently..
Are we talking DOS? There is a PSS/Medic which is a protective security specialist ie member of QRF or PSD team. Then there is NPSS medic which does not require high threat time. But they work in the clinics and do not get attached to a team. Pay different is significant. To be PSS currently and in the future you must have 1 year of high threat time.. I have as of recently heard of a certain company trying to cut corners on this to fill slots but the requirement still stands at 1 year "high threat".
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Old 20 April 2017, 07:45
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Are we talking DOS? There is a PSS/Medic which is a protective security specialist ie member of QRF or PSD team. Then there is NPSS medic which does not require high threat time. But they work in the clinics and do not get attached to a team. Pay different is significant. To be PSS currently and in the future you must have 1 year of high threat time.. I have as of recently heard of a certain company trying to cut corners on this to fill slots but the requirement still stands at 1 year "high threat".
Could be NPSS that I had noticed, but all of this is helpful knowledge, thanks.
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Old 21 April 2017, 03:57
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WPS 2 will not require PSS/PARA to have 1 year of high threat time. The only medical clin to require this is PSS/AEMT.
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Old 21 April 2017, 08:34
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WPS 2 will not require PSS/PARA to have 1 year of high threat time. The only medical clin to require this is PSS/AEMT.
All the P clins require this as they should. IF they are cutting corners then that is not a good thing.

To be a PSS/ Medic you have to meet all the requirements for PSS
and then the requirements for Medic.

Because your are dual clined you could fill the role of PSS or PSS/Medic.

Why would you want a guy that have zero high threat time or tactical time filling a tactical role???

Those are the requirements from three different postings. I know there is one company who is trying to work around this but the WPS2 contract calls for 1 year of HIGH THREAT TIME for all P clins. They are allowing SWAT time to count for that or contracting time deployed it does not need to be all military time. But you still have to have some high threat tactical time.

Must possess:
A minimum of three (3) years of emergency medical services experience.
A minimum of three (3) years applicable work experience and one (1) year protective security experience gained in the employ of any national, state, provincial, local, or commercial entities providing armed high threat protective services that require skills similar to those identified in the PSS training course.
This experience may be earned concurrently.

A minimum of three (3) years of emergency medical services experience.
A minimum of three (3) years applicable work experience and one (1) year protective security experience gained in the employ of any national, state, provincial, local, or commercial entities providing armed high threat protective services that require skills similar to those identified in the PSS training course.
This experience may be earned concurrently.


The contract requires you to be a U.S. Citizen - must be able to obtain and maintain a Secret Level Security Clearance
Three (3) years of experience in which One (1) year, of the three, shall include experience in protective security assignments. Experience can be gained in the employ of any national, State/Province, Local or commercial entities that provide high threat protective services
Have experience/knowledge in current Tactical Combat Casualty Care (TCCC) guidelines
Trained and certified to current U.S. standards recognized standards
Three (3) years' experience can be gained in the employ of any national, State/Provincial, Local or commercial entities providing high threat protective services
Contractor shall comply with the following EMT qualifications:
Successful completion of State or National Registry EMT-Advanced
Submission of current approved CPR credentials
Obtain and maintain weapons qualifications
Must successfully pass all required courses specified by the client
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Old 21 April 2017, 10:19
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I will step back and clean up what I said in earlier posts: Task Order 2 WPS2 is allowing PSS/Paramedics with no tactical experience to submit a BIO. This is a drastic change from all other WPS sites and the other Task Orders under WPS2. Maybe some of the instructors or recruiters that are here on the site can shed some light on this issue.

But as a BIO approved instructor and PSS/Medic we are still requiring all P clins to have 1 year high threat time.

This is not a WPS2 wide thing as I can tell as of yet. Since the other task orders I have BIOs approved for are still requiring 1 year of high threat time and they are WPS2 projects.

I am sorry in advance for my mistake on this issue.
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Old 21 April 2017, 10:44
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This is straight from the WPS2 Contract and will officially address all of the questions above .

Keep in mind that this is new as of WPS2. All operations currently under previous contract/TOs still function under the previous requirements.

Also keep in mind that these are minimum requirements and companies can always make their selection criteria more stringent if they wish - just not more lax.

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2.6.3 PSS/Paramedic (PSS/PARA) (P)

Responsibilities:
A. Provide advanced emergency medical care to Contractor personnel, COM personnel, and others at the direction of DS/RSO, including invasive and pharmacological interventions within the Contractor’s Scope of Practice and in alignment with the National Emergency Medical Services Scope of Practice and WPS II Appendix E, Clinical Protocol Guidance.
B. Perform day-to-day personal protective security functions.
C. Drive the lead vehicle, principal’s vehicle, follow-vehicle, and/or acting as response agent whenever required in motorcade or similar operations.
D. Maintains assigned protective formation position during principal’s walking movements.
E. Participates in advance security preparations.
F. Mans the security post at the principal’s residence or mans the command post, or other static post as required.

Qualifications:
For bio approval, the PSS/PARA shall meet the following qualifications:
A. Must be a US citizen.
B. Must possess current National Registry of Emergency Medical Technicians certification as a paramedic.
1. Registration must be valid prior to deployment, and remain valid throughout the period of deployment.
C. Must possess current approved CPR professional rescuer, Advanced Cardiac Life Support (ACLS), and advanced trauma training credentials (i.e., Basic Trauma Life Support (BTLS) or Pre-Hospital Trauma Life Support (PHTLS) or equivalent).
D. Must have experience/knowledge in current Tactical Combat Casualty Care (TCCC) guidelines.
E. Must possess a minimum of three (3) years of emergency medical services experience. This experience may be gained in the employ of any national, state, provincial, local, or commercial entities providing armed high threat protective services that require skills similar to those identified in the PSS training course as outlined in SOW – Attachment 2, Training.

Upon bio approval, and before beginning work on the contract, the PSS/PARA shall:
A. Attend and successfully complete the PSS training course, as outlined in SOW – Attachment 2, Training.
B. Qualify with the Glock-19, M4, M203, M240, M249, and Remington 870 shotgun, re-qualifying as required by the task order.
C. Obtain and maintain a personnel security clearance as identified in the task order.
D. Complete the WPS Physical Readiness Test at the 65% performance level, and maintain that fitness level for the duration of his/her service on the task order.
E. Possess no impediments to traveling overseas to and within countries that are considered dangerous or unhealthy in general, or to the country or countries assigned in the applicable task order in specific.

2.6.4 PSS/Advanced Emergency Medical Technician (PSS/AEMT) (P)

Responsibilities:
A. Provide advanced emergency medical care to Contractor personnel, COM personnel, and others at the direction of DS/RSO, within the Contractor’s Scope of Practice and in alignment with the National Emergency Medical Services Scope of Practice and WPS II Appendix E, Clinical Protocol Guidance.
B. Perform day-to-day personal protective security functions.
C. Drive the lead vehicle, principal’s vehicle, follow-vehicle, and/or acting as response agent whenever required in motorcade or similar operations.
D. Maintains assigned protective formation position during principal’s walking movements.
E. Participates in advance security preparations.
F. Mans the security post at the principal’s residence or mans the command post, or other static post as required.

Qualifications:
For bio approval, the PSS/AEMT shall meet the following qualifications:
A. Must be a US citizen.
B. Must possess current National Registry of Emergency Medical Technicians certification as an AEMT.
1. Registration must be valid prior to deployment, and remain valid throughout the period of deployment.
C. Must possess current approved CPR professional rescuer, ACLS, and advanced trauma training credentials (i.e., Basic Trauma Life Support (BTLS) or Pre-Hospital Trauma Life Support (PHTLS)).
D. Must possess experience/knowledge in current TCCC guidelines.
E. Must possess a minimum of three (3) years of emergency medical services experience and one (1) year of protective security experience. This experience may be gained in the employ of any national, state, provincial, local, or commercial entities providing armed high threat protective services that require skills similar to those identified in the PSS training course as outlined in Attachment XX. This experience may be earned concurrently.

Upon bio approval, and before beginning work on the contract, the PSS/AEMT shall:
A. Attend and successfully complete the PSS training course, as outlined in SOW – Attachment 2, Training.
B. Qualify with the Glock-19, M4, M203, M240, M249, and Remington 870 shotgun, re-qualifying as required by the task order.
C. Obtain and maintain a personnel security clearance as identified in the task order.
D. Complete the WPS Physical Readiness Test at the 65% performance level, and maintain that fitness level for the duration of his/her service on the task order.
E. Possess no impediments to traveling overseas to and within countries that are considered dangerous or unhealthy in general, or to the country or countries assigned in the applicable task order in specific.

2.6.5 Paramedic (PARA) (S)

Responsibilities:
Provide advanced emergency medical care to Contractor personnel, COM personnel, and others at the direction of DS/RSO, including invasive and pharmacological interventions within the Contractor’s Scope of Practice and in alignment with the National Emergency Medical Services Scope of Practice and WPS II Appendix E, Clinical Protocol Guidance.

Qualifications:
For bio approval, the PARA shall meet the following qualifications:
A. US citizen/TCN/LN as specified in the task order.
B. Level two (2) English language proficiency.
C. Must possess current National Registry of Emergency Medical Technicians certification as a paramedic.
1. Registration must be valid prior to deployment, and remain valid throughout the period of deployment.
D. Must possess current approved CPR professional rescuer, ACLS, and advanced trauma training credentials (i.e., Basic Trauma Life Support (BTLS) or Pre-Hospital Trauma Life Support (PHTLS) or equivalent).
E. Must possess experience/knowledge in current TCCC guidelines.
F. Must possess a minimum of three (3) years of emergency medical services experience. This experience may be gained in the employ of any national, state, provincial, local, or commercial entities providing armed high threat protective services that require skills similar to those identified in the guard training course as outlined in SOW – Attachment 2, Training.

Upon bio approval, and before beginning work on the contract, the PARA shall:
A. Attend and successfully complete the NPSS training course, as outlined in SOW – Attachment 2, Training.
B. US citizens and TCNs shall qualify with the Glock-19 and M4, re-qualifying as required by the task order. LNs shall qualify with those firearms specified in the task order.
C. Obtain and maintain a personnel security clearance/public trust certification as specified in the task order.
D. Complete the WPS Physical Readiness Test at the 50% performance level, and maintain that fitness level for the duration of his/her service on the task order.
E. Possess no impediments to traveling overseas to and within countries that are considered dangerous or unhealthy in general, or to the country or countries assigned in the applicable task order in specific.

2.6.6 Search and Rescue Paramedic (SARP) (S)
Responsibilities:

A. Performs invasive and pharmacological interventions within the Contractor’s Scope of Practice and in alignment with the National Emergency Medical Services Scope of Practice and WPS II Appendix E, Clinical Protocol Guidance.
B. Assists in aircraft missions to conduct aerial search, extraction, and evacuation of personnel from urban or remote areas.
C. Stabilizes and prepares injured personnel to be transported to higher level medical facilities.
D. Ensures that Contractor-provided medical kits, including vehicle bags, are kept fully stocked and serviceable.

Qualifications:
For bio approval, the SARP shall meet the following qualifications:
A. Must be a US citizen.
B. Must possess current National Registry of Emergency Medical Technicians certification as a paramedic.
1. Registration must be valid prior to deployment, and remain valid throughout the period of deployment.
C. Must possess current approved CPR professional rescuer, ACLS, and advanced trauma training credentials (i.e., Basic Trauma Life Support (BTLS) or Pre-Hospital Trauma Life Support (PHTLS) or equivalent).
D. Must possess experience/knowledge in current TCCC guidelines.
E. Must have successfully completed US Department of Transportation Air Medical Crew Advanced National Standard Curriculum training, or a demonstrated equivalent.
F. Must possess a minimum of five (5) years’ experience as a paramedic. This experience may be gained in the employ of any national, state, provincial, local, or commercial entities providing armed high threat protective services that require skills similar to those identified in the guard training course as outlined in SOW – Attachment 2, Training.

Upon bio approval, and before beginning work on the contract, the SARP shall:
A. Attend and successfully complete the NPSS training course, as outlined in SOW – Attachment 2, Training.
B. Qualify with the Glock-19 and M4, re-qualifying as required by the task order.
C. Obtain and maintain a personnel security clearance/public trust certification as identified in the task order.
D. Complete the WPS Physical Readiness Test at the 50% performance level, and maintain that fitness level for the duration of his/her service on the task order.
E. Possess no impediments to traveling overseas to and within countries that are considered dangerous or unhealthy in general, or to the country or countries assigned in the applicable task order in specific.

2.6.7 Advanced Emergency Medical Technician (AEMT) (S)

Responsibilities:
Provide advanced emergency medical care to Contractor personnel, COM personnel, and others at the direction of DS/RSO, within the Contractor’s Scope of Practice and in alignment with the National Emergency Medical Services Scope of Practice and WPS II Appendix E, Clinical Protocol Guidance.

Qualifications:
For bio approval, the AEMT shall meet the following qualifications:
A. US citizen/TCN/LN as specified in the task order.
B. Level two (2) English language proficiency.
C. Must possess current National Registry of Emergency Medical Technicians certification as an AEMT.
1. Registration must be valid prior to deployment, and remain valid throughout the period of deployment.
D. Must possess current approved CPR professional rescuer, ACLS, and advanced trauma training credentials (i.e., Basic Trauma Life Support (BTLS) or Pre-Hospital Trauma Life Support (PHTLS) or equivalent).
E. Must possess experience/knowledge in current TCCC guidelines.
F. Must possess a minimum of three (3) years of emergency medical services experience. This experience may be gained in the employ of any national, state, provincial, local, or commercial entities providing armed high threat protective services that require skills similar to those identified in the guard training course as outlined in SOW – Attachment 2, Training.

Upon bio approval, and before beginning work on the contract, the AEMT shall:
A. Attend and successfully complete the NPSS training course, as outlined in SOW – Attachment 2, Training.
B. US citizens and TCNs shall qualify with the Glock-19 and M4, re-qualifying as required by the task order. LNs shall qualify with those firearms specified in the task order.
C. Obtain and maintain a personnel security clearance/public trust certification as identified in the task order.
D. Complete the WPS Physical Readiness Test at the 50% performance level, and maintain that fitness level for the duration of his/her service on the task order.
E. Possess no impediments to traveling overseas to and within countries that are considered dangerous or unhealthy in general, or to the country or countries assigned in the applicable task order in specific.
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Old 21 April 2017, 12:05
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THANK O-POS

"E. Must possess a minimum of three (3) years of emergency medical services experience. This experience may be gained in the employ of any national, state, provincial, local, or commercial entities providing armed high threat protective services that require skills similar to those identified in the PSS training course as outlined in SOW Attachment 2, Training.

SO the requirements still require some tactical background and high threat protective backgrounds which is good. Several recruiters are putting out no tactical background required and submitting BIOS for guys who were Fireman or just paramedics with none of the above requirements.. And some of them are getting approved..

But again thank you O-POS for posting the letter of the contract!
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