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Old 3 October 2015, 11:17
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Jesus why does every movie thread have to turn political....
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Old 3 October 2015, 14:06
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I thought the movie was pretty good. Cinematography and sound were great. The leads were all pretty good. I liked the action sequences. My only real complaint is that there is a major plot point that doesn't make sense to me(see below), but overall I still liked it.

SOF types play a role in the movie, so some here will probably find fault with certain points of their portrayal. As an 11B I didn't see anything too terrible, though.

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The whole point of them finding and hitting the tunnel was to allow Sylvio to infiltrate Mexico, intercept Diaz and ultimately kill the drug lord. I don't see why he couldn't have just driven across the border.
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Btw the consultant was Colombian I thought?
If this is in ref to consulting as a TA for the movie, it isn't surprising that Hollyweird and a Colombian would feel comfortable about using a Colombian to advise as to what the TTPs and general idiosyncrasies are for Mexico -- umm, LOL.

FTR, Control Risks tried bringing Colombians to work as security consultants in Mexico -- yeah, that worked out real well. There are the occasional Colombian generals who get themselves a tidy nest egg as advisers to various Mexican conglomerates and the govt (I can think of one that does/did both) -- but yeah, its funny that in 2015 the Colombians still want the world to think they have a handle on how the narco trade/war works....
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Old 3 October 2015, 18:09
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If this is in ref to consulting as a TA for the movie, it isn't surprising that Hollyweird and a Colombian would feel comfortable about using a Colombian to advise as to what the TTPs and general idiosyncrasies are for Mexico -- umm, LOL.
Benicio Del Toro's character, Alejandro is supposed to be Colombian.
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Old 3 October 2015, 18:39
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The whole point of them finding and hitting the tunnel was to allow Sylvio to infiltrate Mexico, intercept Diaz and ultimately kill the drug lord. I don't see why he couldn't have just driven across the border.
Pretty sure it's because they didn't know where the drug lord was hiding...hence needing Diaz to lead them there.
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Old 3 October 2015, 20:18
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I honestly thought it sucked, basically because of everything about Emily Blunt and her partner's characters. Everything about them sucked. Remove them and it could have been good.
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Pretty sure it's because they didn't know where the drug lord was hiding...hence needing Diaz to lead them there.
They knew where Diaz was, and that he was going to see the boss. Zero need for Del Toro to go through the tunnel that I can see.

And yeah, Emily Blunt acted terribly in this. THAT SAID, I still enjoyed the movie quite a bit overall. Seems like 90% of society (SOCNET too) goes into a movie with a pen and paper so they can write down all the shit they just know they're gonna hate about it. It's a fictional movie, there's gonna be some nonsense to it.
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I saw the movie & knew the way it was going how it would end! Look.... I am not stupid or innocent.....but.......Ihighly doubt that every thing bad in this world....is due to the CIA's influence! Or you see movies & the mean,dangerous guys are all ex Spec.Ops guys & they are all bad with mental issues.Whatever happened to movies which had our military being the good guys kicking the bad guys asses??
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I saw the movie & knew the way it was going how it would end! Look.... I am not stupid or innocent.....but.......Ihighly doubt that every thing bad in this world....is due to the CIA's influence! Or you see movies & the mean,dangerous guys are all ex Spec.Ops guys & they are all bad with mental issues.Whatever happened to movies which had our military being the good guys kicking the bad guys asses??
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No kidding, right? Next thing you know, they'll make a movie where the ATF conspires with DOJ to flood Mexico with guns in order to increase the murder rate to make gun control more politically acceptable, or maybe some sort of fantasy where the US supplies weapons to AQ affiliates to defeat folks perceived as aligning with Iran. All Hollywood lies to make the US look bad!
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No kidding, right? Next thing you know, they'll make a movie where the ATF conspires with DOJ to flood Mexico with guns in order to increase the murder rate to make gun control more politically acceptable, or maybe some sort of fantasy where the US supplies weapons to AQ affiliates to defeat folks perceived as aligning with Iran. All Hollywood lies to make the US look bad!
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I honestly thought it sucked, basically because of everything about Emily Blunt and her partner's characters. Everything about them sucked. Remove them and it could have been good.
Concur 100%. I said the exact same thing to my girl at least twice during the movie.

On the other hand, the characters played by Brolin and Del Toro were compelling and their acting was excellent...
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Old 5 October 2015, 15:22
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No kidding, right? Next thing you know, they'll make a movie where the ATF conspires with DOJ to flood Mexico with guns in order to increase the murder rate to make gun control more politically acceptable, or maybe some sort of fantasy where the US supplies weapons to AQ affiliates to defeat folks perceived as aligning with Iran. All Hollywood lies to make the US look bad!
I think the potential title has already been worn out for a different successful movie franchise.
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I agree completely with MassGrunt:
Very good flick if you can get past your dislike of the main female character. She is torn between LE "procedure" and working in the gray "doing what needs to be done" which has been sanctioned by higher. The acting is terrific and while a few have called the CIA/CAG guys emotionless..I call them mission focused and serious. In fact the sense of humor they displayed was fairly consistent with the gallows humor in the Mil. Worth the $10.00.

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I saw this today. I thought it was outstanding. I thought the CIA/CAG guys were awesome. Oh, Blunt's character and the black dude were pussies.

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I enjoyed the movie from an entertainment perspective, but there were some huge plot holes.

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First, Blunt's partner was purposely excluded from the task force and somehow attached himself to the duration of the mission after someone calls him for a ride.

Secondly, the partner's friend just happens to be on the take from Mexican druglords and just happens to be at the bar they wind up.

Third, the partner completely disappears after emerging from the tunnel (thank God).

And lastly, why would Brolin pick such a squeaky-clean agent if what he needed was legal complicity to a somewhat illegal act?
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Saw the movie last night. Is out on I Tunes.

Was looking forward to this, as had a lot of good reviews.

Kind of disappointed. While it did have a few shoot them up action scenes, the plot was weak. The storyline weak. I would say an OK movie to watch if you are on airplane, or looking to just chill out for a couple of hours at home. But, nothing groundbreaking or having a "Wow" factor.
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Saw it last night and thought it was highly entertaining.

Some outstanding cinematography and the characters all acted fairly realistic. It could have gone on for another hour, IMO. The story closed the loop pretty drastically where it could have played out a tad more.
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I agree completely with MassGrunt:
Very good flick if you can get past your dislike of the main female character. She is torn between LE "procedure" and working in the gray "doing what needs to be done" which has been sanctioned by higher. The acting is terrific and while a few have called the CIA/CAG guys emotionless..I call them mission focused and serious. In fact the sense of humor they displayed was fairly consistent with the gallows humor in the Mil. Worth the $10.00.
+1million.

They were my favorite part of the movie "Shhh lay back this is happening .." - by using a rape joke hollyweird was trying to show how fucked up they were but I thought it was really funny and situationally appropriate. They were there to do their mission, they did it, they didn't cry about it or need to have heart to hearts about it after, they made some crude jokes to each other and got on with it.

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The point of stirring up shit was to get the US cartel guy to go back, they used the tunnel as a cover OP - they told "daddy" they were hitting a tunnel and stopping drugs (yay!) - but used it as cover to get Del Toro's character into position to take the crooked cop hostage, which gave him a way to approach the US cartel guy without freaking him out and take him hostage, then use him to get access to the main guys location / place / and passed the front guards. It made sense in a movie type of way.
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No kidding, right? Next thing you know, they'll make a movie where the ATF conspires with DOJ to flood Mexico with guns in order to increase the murder rate to make gun control more politically acceptable, or maybe some sort of fantasy where the US supplies weapons to AQ affiliates to defeat folks perceived as aligning with Iran. All Hollywood lies to make the US look bad!
A generation ago that was called "Wag the Dog."
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