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Old 8 January 2016, 20:34
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I say that because IMO good and bad kind of all melted together. This was really apparent when Benecio sat down with the family at the dinner table at the end.
He was just honoring his enemy's last request.
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Old 8 January 2016, 20:35
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He was just honoring his enemy's last request.
Pretty cold way to do it.
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Old 8 January 2016, 21:01
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Pretty cold way to do it.
Not sure his sympathy meter was pegged after they executed his child and decapitated his wife.
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Old 8 January 2016, 21:09
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Not sure his sympathy meter was pegged after they executed his child and decapitated his wife.
and IIRC killed his child by putting her in a vat of acid.
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Old 8 January 2016, 21:15
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Pretty cold way to do it.
That's the value of clear communication and thinking before you speak, see? Big, bad cartel boss should have thought through the wording of his last request a bit more.
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Old 8 January 2016, 21:17
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and IIRC killed his child by putting her in a vat of acid.
They did. I get the vengeance part big time for sure. And another angle that came to me is if he left any of the immediate family alive then (1) The wife continues to run the business and Sicario is a seriously hunted man and (2) The boys grow up with nothing but vengeance on their mind and again, Sicario is a seriously hunted man.

So, in respecting the vengeance angle, and looking at it from Sicario's POV, he really had no other alternative. And as far as the drug lord - so goes the saying "you reap what you sow"

The comment about potential for a badass trilogy - I agree, and I definitely would watch them
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Old 8 January 2016, 22:01
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By the family's reaction to Alejandro's speech about his wife and daughter, I'm not so sure that Fausto's wife and sons were so innocent. Or it could be the tension.
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Old 8 January 2016, 22:31
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By the family's reaction to Alejandro's speech about his wife and daughter, I'm not so sure that Fausto's wife and sons were so innocent. Or it could be the tension.
Language barrier.
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Old 8 January 2016, 22:41
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Not sure his sympathy meter was pegged after they executed his child and decapitated his wife.
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and IIRC killed his child by throwing her in a vat of acid.
Oh, I rationalized that it was justified, just cold.

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That's the value of clear communication and thinking before you speak, see? Big, bad cartel boss should have thought through the wording of his last request a bit more.
Yep. Also, and I only caught this on a second viewing, when Alejandro was startled awake on the flight to El Paso, you could hear a piercing scream. I think that was him and an unseen flashback to him finding the severed head of him wife and the tub of acid that held his daughter's remains. The cartel planned that to happen. I also think Guillermo, that fat fucking pig, had a hand in that.
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There was some good stuff in the film, but I disliked the two FBI agents so much that it ruined it. I wanted Benicio to pull the trigger.
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Old 15 January 2016, 19:30
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Finally watched it.

It was a decent flick. Del Toro and Bronson did great, and I'd watch a sequel. Fuck me running though, I have the same issue as everyone else, the two agents were a fucking waste. Could have been almost as good as Heat without those two pussies and a little more plot drama between the main protagonists and antagonists.

The "jefe" dinner scene was the best. I don't quite get the connection with the state cop and why we needed to see him eating breakfast all the time with his family, or why they were the last scene... I would have been fine if it would have just played out without those fillers...But whatever.

Worth the $5.99 OnDemand
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I think it could have been a really good movie without the FBI agents.
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Just finished it the other day. I thought overall it was good, but the FBI agents were weak. I guess maybe that was the point?
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Movie was ok. Blunt was miscast and her character was pretty pointless. The Delta guys looked like outta shape extras with beards, but the border shootout scene I liked. And why were the people wrapped and buried in a wall in the house when you got the whole desert outside your yard!!!

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I liked the clueless useless FBI-girl. :)

I think the story was excellent compliment to the Man who must do the unclean fight- at the end, the revealing of 'we never need you for actual operation- you are our legal 'cover'- it made me smile.


And I see Mako-06 for a brief instant in my favorite dialogue in movie- CIA Man mentions research into counter-terror in Fiji, and Mako-06 is immediately into the scheme- "You leave Fiji alone! Terrorists!".

I think the director and writer specifically target the critics of military and intelligence actions in small, vicious conflicts and attempt to apply morals of a wine-tasting room.

Another great dialogue- "You asking me how a watch works. For now, just watch the time."

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Old 1 February 2016, 21:12
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Blunt was miscast and her character was pretty pointless.
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I think her pointlessness was a part of the plot. Note that the CIA Man intentionally avoids asking for FBI agent who is combat veteran of Iraq and lawyer.

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One of the better movies I have seen in a while. I finally found time to watch this on Amazon and wasn't disappointed. This had great action but not too much, good plot, did a good job canvassing the various characters, and a great ending. Loved this movie after avoiding it for whatever reason.
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The wife & I watched it on Amazon Prime the other night. We were both wanting to see it, but we were both disappointed.
I liked Benicio's character, well I guess like maybe the wrong word, but he acted well with it and was a compelling character.

But, the same old tired, CIA/US Govt is evil get's so tiring. Emily Blunt's character I thought sucked.
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I think it could have been a really good movie without the FBI agents.
A metaphor of life 😂
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Looks like the next movie, not necessarily a sequel but involving the same characters (with the exception of the female FBI agent) will be released in June, 2018.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/08/...rrives-in-june
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