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Old 24 April 2018, 16:02
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I was a medic on two separate tactical teams, two separate departments. On one we were issued MARPAT FROG (from DRMO and surplus), cool-guy helmets with mounted lights, the latest in body armor, MP5s (before we went to Mk18s, then back to M4s). The team leader would yell out--yell out--"Oscar mike" every time we moved. It was as military as one could get without saying the oath.

On the other, it was a laid-back atmosphere, M4s, dark-blue BDU-type utilities. Very different vibe. Take off the blouse and the tactical gear, you didn't look too dissimilar from most of the other cops.

That second group, the outcomes were the same, the public perception I think better, and was pro-public. The first borderlined on anti-cop because they even fostered a "better than you" attitude in the department. The public hated it when they were called out.
Listen to Chip Huth (Kansas City SWAT Commander) speak. I think you'll like what you see/hear.
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Old 24 April 2018, 16:36
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Listen to Chip Huth (Kansas City SWAT Commander) speak. I think you'll like what you see/hear.
Howdy, can you post a link to the article? I would like to see what he has to say.
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Old 24 April 2018, 16:51
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Howdy, can you post a link to the article? I would like to see what he has to say.
Here is one his best talks.

He has some great ideas....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_29TS6jjsA
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Old 24 April 2018, 18:00
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Here is one his best talks.

He has some great ideas....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_29TS6jjsA
And look what his SWAT insignia is. Lol! Still liked most of his talk though.
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And look what his SWAT insignia is. Lol! Still liked most of his talk though.
Yep...one's eyes are drawn straight to it, but hey, no one is perfect....

I like ours. It's the size of a service pin that reads, SWAT...plain and to the point.
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Old 24 April 2018, 18:54
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Our SWAT patch is the same as our department patch, only subdued.
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Old 24 April 2018, 23:09
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Yep...one's eyes are drawn straight to it, but hey, no one is perfect....

I like ours. It's the size of a service pin that reads, SWAT...plain and to the point.
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Almost funny this thread pops up today, I almost revived it myself.

Was out to buy some new running shoes last weekend and saw some off-duty cop wearing some kind of commemorative SWAT shirt.
I almost had a stroke, as it depicted my insignia of my beloved Regiment on the back.

It's so infuriating. Many, many men have bled and suffered to make it what it means today. And then some SWAT guys copy it off the internet, well knowing what they are doing.
Give some college kid $100 and they'll come up with a design for you. But how dare they spit on the heritage of a prestigious military unit.

Sorry. Had to rant, better here than in public.
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Old 25 April 2018, 16:12
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...or my absolute favorite "the civilians" attitude...
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