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Old 16 April 2018, 10:00
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Man Armed With Knives Attacking Police Officers

Well done, gentlemen! After he was tased, those "stabs" got a little too close to comfort for me when affecting the arrest.

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Old 16 April 2018, 10:19
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Tasers vs knives.....
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Old 16 April 2018, 10:27
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Knives kill 6x as many people here, than rifles. Over there, they are the leading cause of murder.
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Old 16 April 2018, 11:27
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I'd consider this a primer on how not to handle a man with a knife.
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Old 16 April 2018, 11:31
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I'd consider this a primer on how not to handle a man with a knife.
Yep. You and Whitebean win the prize....

My well-done was in reference to the fact that the LEO's didn't get themselves killed. But, they sure gave it a run for their money when approaching him -- while standing -- with those knives in his hands.
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Old 16 April 2018, 11:46
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Ha, I was afraid you were serious. Of course the Facebook use of force expert are praising this as how it "should be done", "American cops would have just shot him" blah blah blah. These UK cops are ridiculously under equipped and there's no questioning their courage but there's a thin line between brave and stupid and forcing a confrontation with a guy holding two large knives with only your hands and a less lethal tool with an extremely high failure rate is stupid.
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Old 16 April 2018, 11:56
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Ha, I was afraid you were serious.
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Old 16 April 2018, 12:17
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I'd suggest a lot more amps in the taser.
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Old 16 April 2018, 12:25
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I would have used a 12 gauge. The bald cop is lucky to be alive. Fucking stupid.
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Old 16 April 2018, 15:05
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The moment he tired the door handle to the apartment would have been the end of the conversation. I'll talk until I can't talk anymore, but you can't let that crazy fuck get into someone's home and get a hostage or worse.

And fucking tasers.... they'd been better off getting a broken broom handle and trying to stab the fucker with it.
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Old 16 April 2018, 15:20
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Wow, there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity. That's pretty much an instructional on how not to deal with a knife!
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By the grace of God alone (and I suppose the suspect's total inability to fight worth a shit) are those cops uninjured and/or alive. Problem is, the "Police should never be allowed use force of any kind" crowd will see this video and actually think it is a good example of how to do business. It was a "success" only through sheer luck and nothing else. The only thing it is a good example of is how to get yourself killed. Screw edged weapons, full stop. God I hate Tasers....
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Old 16 April 2018, 17:13
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Whoa, not a cop but holy shit that was close.
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Old 16 April 2018, 19:33
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God I hate Tasers....
Yeah, maybe I'm beating a dead horse into glue but "what he said"
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By the grace of God alone (and I suppose the suspect's total inability to fight worth a shit) are those cops uninjured and/or alive. Problem is, the "Police should never be allowed use force of any kind" crowd will see this video and actually think it is a good example of how to do business. It was a "success" only through sheer luck and nothing else. The only thing it is a good example of is how to get yourself killed. Screw edged weapons, full stop. God I hate Tasers....
All of this.

Iím pretty certain I would get fired had I handled the situation like that.
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Old 16 April 2018, 20:57
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That is why I prefer a gun. Bullets go through most glass, Tasers don't.
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Old 16 April 2018, 21:08
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I think tasers came into the picture and turned scared people into cowards.

It's interesting to see the number of departments that are now having to backtrack and are teaching in their In-services to diminish their use. But, they are finding that once that cat was let out of the bag, it's hard to get it back.

However, I digress and that's a whole other issue....
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In okla: 2 Officers on the scene-1 has taser the other a gun.
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Old 16 April 2018, 22:02
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In okla: 2 Officers on the scene-1 has taser the other a gun.
That's the standard really. Don't use Tasers as the primary tool for a deadly threat. If you're going to use it, have lethal cover.

Tasers are a great tool but they fail all the time because the real world has variables. And they're not a substitute for knowing how to fight.
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I was brought up in Britain and for many years was proud that our "Bobbies" were unarmed. Sadly, in today's society, it would appear that this approach encourages cowards and scum.
I believe that an armed police force in the UK would lessen the confrontations against them. Obviously muscly ROF's would be required per Iraq ie If you THINK.... etc.
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