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Old 8 May 2018, 13:41
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Off duty cop pulls gun for perceived theft of Mentos

This is unreal....why introduce a gun to an offense that at most, warrants a citation?

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/...-arreola-video

The poor guy said he hopes the cop doesn't get fired but I disagree as it shows judgement issues to say the least.

Is there any circumstance where this is justified?
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Old 8 May 2018, 13:44
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Not in this case as it is presented here....
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Old 8 May 2018, 15:07
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Wow. I can't even imagine what he was thinking. The guy with the Mentos did a good job not escalating the situation by getting into a heated argument with a dumb ass.
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Old 8 May 2018, 21:13
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I suspect the officer will be terminated. Not much justification for the display of force, hell he didn't even drop the cash he was holding in his other hand when he had trouble getting his weapon out from concealment.
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Old 8 May 2018, 22:00
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Old 9 May 2018, 02:07
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Stretch.. Old news!?.. It very recently happened..??

Anyhoo, I would be very surprised if he wasn’t term’d.

Loss Prevention 101 in Cali; person legally has not stolen anything until they’ve passed a cash register and walked outside with merchandise. Officer should’ve been catching up on his sleep rather than buying a lotto ticket..
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Old 9 May 2018, 19:03
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Is there any circumstance where this is justified?
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Old 9 May 2018, 23:21
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Wow... for a fucking suspected shoplifting. Fire this retard. Probably has about 18 months on the job. Dickhead is carrying his off-duty, unsecured, in his hoodie pocket??? Bye bye asshole
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Old 10 May 2018, 14:16
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Wow... for a fucking suspected shoplifting. Fire this retard. Probably has about 18 months on the job. Dickhead is carrying his off-duty, unsecured, in his hoodie pocket??? Bye bye asshole
My sentiments exactly. Non violent crime=be the best witness.
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Old 10 May 2018, 15:19
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My sentiments exactly. Non violent crime=be the best witness.
I agree and it makes me think-Has anyone conducted scenarios where the officer is "off-duty" in training?
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Old 10 May 2018, 17:27
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Stretch.. Old news!?.. It very recently happened..??

Anyhoo, I would be very surprised if he wasn’t term’d.

Loss Prevention 101 in Cali; person legally has not stolen anything until they’ve passed a cash register and walked outside with merchandise. Officer should’ve been catching up on his sleep rather than buying a lotto ticket..
Re-reading...

I must have been texting my GF, who knows...

Sorry ‘bout that.
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Old 10 May 2018, 23:46
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KidA, Like you I was questioning why the incident was “old news”?
according to Strech???

It literally just made the news here !...?
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Old 11 May 2018, 09:47
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I agree and it makes me think-Has anyone conducted scenarios where the officer is "off-duty" in training?
It's mostly a block of class room instruction that can be boiled down to "don't involve yourself or your family in enforcement off duty unless life,limb or eyesight"

It should be common sense but...
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Old 11 May 2018, 09:50
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...It should be common sense but...
It is to professional LEO's! But, to those that just needed a job, they don't get it....
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Old 11 May 2018, 10:02
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It should be common sense but...
I've noticed in the last 5 years, maybe close to 10, common sense is something lacking by recruits and new officers. I teach gangs and accident investigation at our academy, the stupid questions I get, and the attitude towards the work is scary.

Case in point: During the last academy class, I was telling the recruits that gang members obviously shouldn't be respected, but you must "show" them respect. I say this because the typical gang members world revolved around respect, or their perceived earned respect. I went on to say that if you stop a group of gang members, it's not a good idea to make one, or all the gang members, look like a bitch in front of their homies... if you do, you are making it twice as hard for the next cop to deal with them and you are setting yourself up for a violent confrontation. Don't be a coward, but don't be a dick. Just do your job and move on.

After giving that speech, one recruit sitting front and center tried to be the class clown and said he would never show a gang member respect, and proudly boasted that he would be the first in his class to pull a Use Of Force report number. Well, that class is now in FTO, and the above recruit WAS the first to pull a UF report number, and now has the reputation of being a hot head. All his FTO's are in agreement that he's on the short list.
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Old 11 May 2018, 10:05
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Wow. File that under "improper (suspected ) shoplifting response."

Congratulations officer, you're now the subject of countless future academy videos.
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Old 11 May 2018, 10:39
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My sentiments exactly. Non violent crime=be the best witness.
If off duty....I could take that further and say IDGAF if he steals mentos.
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Old 11 May 2018, 10:55
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If off duty....I could take that further and say IDGAF if he steals mentos.
Exactly! It's a property crime, and it's not MY property.
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Old 11 May 2018, 12:35
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I don't want to be the good idea fairy but given we've had officers injured intervening off duty for minor issues, it might be a necessary but brief training.
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