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Patriotism is what this country is founded on!!!
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I think it is a stupid ass decision by the HOA. Yeah they had their rules, etc. but if they really stopped to think about the NEGATIVE press they would have (and now are receiving) because of this issue - they might have decided to turn the other cheek. I mean, really, it's a flagpole - not a trashy trailer or some shit. According to the article the neighbors don't mind anyway. Sure the HOA is in the "legal right," but now they look like ass to a lot of people and people know about the area and this issue and many may think twice when moving somewhere in that area. Wonder what THAT will do to their precious home values.
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Easiest solution:
Allow a flagpole at the entrance to the subdivision that the MOH recipient attends to daily. Done and done.
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As stated previously in this thread, there are "protections" already in place regarding flying the flag on your property, including within an area covered by an HOA. IE, there is FLORIDA. I think people might find that the HOA in this instance does have rules, so does the State of FL, and these rules did not prevent this vet from flying a flag. Some orgs are forward-thinking and looking to prevent issues from occurring -- some of the readers of this thread will state there are no issues when flying a flag. Whatever. To those with a desire to have an open mind, read that link. I lived in Westchase when THIS issue was big news. I supported the HOA's ruling -- except when it voted to lower the fine. There is more to the issue than just putting up a sign to say you support the troops. Some people won't see that. I'm sure that I can now have the obligatory comments about my patriotism as well. Right. 'Cause I sure as fuck haven't EVER done anything that could be termed as supporting my country....
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On one hand, I see the point of those who say "Hey, he signed a contract". I really don't think anybody should be idiotic enough to live somewhere with an HOA at all unless they want to obey all kinds of gay rules.
Then again, what if the HOA made a rule like "No African Americans shall visit said property" or "No acts of oral copulation shall be permitted within the premises"? Is that okay because he signed it? Or would everybody say that is unconstitutional. So isn't it unconstitutional to prohibit the display of an American flag? What if the flag was gigantic and said "Go fuck yourself, fuckers" on it instead of being a patriotic flag? I don't know what to think. Easy solution is don't live where there is an HOA.
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This is the solution:
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Now if Virginia (and other states) had something like this . . .
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Of course different states will interpret it differently. But, here in Nebraska several years ago, and HOA took a guy to court for painting his house an obnoxious purple. The court sided with the homeowner, saying that private property trumped the HOA rules.
On a similar side note. My Uncle, was taken to court by his neighbors back in the 1980's, for flying his flag. They said it was too loud. My uncle was a vet, and head of civilian security at White Sands missle base. The original suit agianst him was won by the neighbor. My uncle took it to the NM supreme court, and they threw it out. It's been awhile so my memory is hazy. I do rememeber Paul Harvey talking about it,and it was in People magazine as well.
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Agreed - a great fix. I could not open the article so in case it does not correctly reflect the law, Section 720.304 provides in pertinent part: Quote:
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OK, last post in this thread tonight - sorry, I am a dirt lawyer at heart....
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For a background on the rise of H.O.A.s, and the problems they have created, read this article (2,200 words) from seven years ago.
And then visit Evan McKenzie's blog. He used to be an H.O.A. lawyer. The choice of whether or not to live in an H.O.A. is not a simple matter of consumer choice as H.O.A. proponents make it out to be. Quote:
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And continuing with the thought of "choice," see
www.bethyoung.org/ibeth/2008/08/hoas-r-on-ur-pr.html (emphasis added. See original for all hyper-links): Quote:
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