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Old 12 July 2010, 18:02
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How can you make fire in an emergency

Lets open up fieldcraft a tad.

Emergency fire making, aside from the SAR method of a gallon of petrol and a flare. The scene: You are out in the Ulu. You have dropped off your ruck for a CTR. You are carrying belt kit, a weapon and the clothing you are in. During the CTR your team is pinged and you need to bug out getting seperated from your team.

A day later, no more bad guys but you are on your own awaiting an extraction: With what you have on you how can you make fire?

I'll kick off.

I have replaced the cords in my smock with 6mm kernmantel and could use them to make a fire bow. Or, use a Bic that has a couple of elastic bands around it that can be used as tinder.
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Old 12 July 2010, 18:29
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Dryer lint (a handful in a ziplock is always in the kit) a flint rod and a couple punks of pine heartwood....works like magic and weaghs in at about 6-8 ounces. It'l get you started.
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Old 12 July 2010, 18:32
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A firebow is great, but you've GOT to have some appropriate dry hardwood to make the drill spindle, hand cup, and anvil with.

try making one of pine or some other soft wood, and you'll melt your 6mm kernmantle before you get there...
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Old 12 July 2010, 20:33
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I know, I use pine or fresh cut oak when first teaching people the bowing technique. It's a tad mean and nasty but it makes them work at the technique ...... and if they get it right it does give smoke.

I use 6mm kernmantel because it lasts much, much longer than the old favourite of paracord.
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Old 12 July 2010, 21:40
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Goes without sayin', gotta have a "Necessities pouch" on the web belt; fire starter kit, signal device, hooks, needle, line, couple energy bars perhaps etc, etc......small enough to be on your person at all tiimes, dry and ready in a fix.
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Old 12 July 2010, 22:01
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The mountain men used to call it a Possible's Pouch.
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Old 12 July 2010, 22:01
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The mountain men used to call it a Possible's Pouch.
According to something I read.
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Old 12 July 2010, 22:32
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I have the answer...

Move to Detroit.

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Old 12 July 2010, 22:43
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I have the answer...

Move to Detroit.

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Old 12 July 2010, 22:49
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That's Right... whose the man???
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Old 13 July 2010, 12:20
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I used to carry a zip-loc bag with some plain, fine grade steel wool in it. A 9-volt battery from the firefly lights we carried will spark it off and smolder long enough to get some tinder going.
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Anyone ever tried THIS TECHNIQUE? I have NOT. I'm just curious as to if it works....
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Old 13 July 2010, 13:21
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Fine steel wool, a magnesium stick, add any knife blade. Never fails. Used many times a bit back when the zippo fluid ran out.
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Old 13 July 2010, 13:43
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Anyone ever tried THIS TECHNIQUE? I have NOT. I'm just curious as to if it works....
It does, seen it demo'ed. You need a very friendly tinder though. Never tried it though as I don't carry cans out in the Ulu with me.

Making a lens out of ice and concentrating sunlight also works. Not practical though, it takes too long and expends more calories than you would recoup. Also needs a very friendly tinder.

Filling a [new] condom with water and holding it so that it configures like a lens to concentrate sunlight onto tinder also works.

One taught by Mors Kochanski. A carbon steel knife can be used along with a flint, or other sharp striking object, to creates sparks with which to light tinder - the best is charcloth or slightly ground charcol from an old camp fire. Use the back edge of the knife on the sharp striking surface to create sparks not the sharp edge, I have destroyed a couple of Frost Mora's practicing this previously.
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Old 13 July 2010, 22:18
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Fire with compressed air:

http://www.wildwoodsurvival.com/surv...rb2/index.html
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Old 13 July 2010, 22:28
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If you buy one of those, you better keep the video handy, like on your cell phone. Because if I were to make a traffic stop, and I saw that.. .you're gettin locked up... and I am not gonna believe no hippie 'It's a Fire Starter Thingie....." bullshit

I would reply.. BULLSHIT ya Jack Wagon!! put your hands behind your back.. LOL
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Old 13 July 2010, 23:20
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Check this out dude
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Old 14 July 2010, 03:29
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How can you make fire in an emergency...???
Go to Costco or Sam's Club and purchase a "brick" of disposable lighters.

Now distribute them throughout your kit...
(a few in the bottom of Ammo pouches and camel-bak, butt-pack, ruck, IFAK, bug-out bag, plate carrier pocket, etc...)

You will always be able to make fire...
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Old 15 July 2010, 18:55
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Definitely not an expert but...

A single ferrocerium rod (ex: http://firesteel.com/products/FireSteel-Ranger.html at 0.25" x 3" and just 15 grams) is an amazing firestarting tool.

And with the previously-mentioned Frost's Mora (ex: http://www.bensbackwoods.com/servlet/Detail?no=1) for striking and a vaseline-impregnated cotton ball for tinder (fluff out before using to better catch the sparks), you can't get much lighter.

Best of all, you can get all of the above (including the knife) for less than $20.
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Old 15 July 2010, 21:31
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Anyone ever tried THIS TECHNIQUE? I have NOT. I'm just curious as to if it works....
I think I'm going to try it this Saturday. I'll let you know how it works.

I used the "strike my carbon steel knife on a rock to make a spark" method in Malaysia during a training exchange. Worked like a charm. I hace several "metal match" magnesium kits that work fine, and I usually carry 2-3 lighters in my gear.

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