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Old 7 June 2016, 13:58
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I was camping for a year during my divorce, just couldn't afford rent and child support at the time.
Just considered it a long field exercise really, not a big deal as I was working several jobs, sleeping on/near beach and showering at 24hour fitness....there's hurting and there's embracing homelessness, two different things.
It did suck though, in retrospect I should have looked for a smarter path, but no way was I going to ask for help.
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Old 9 June 2016, 08:23
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Ive given out many a meal or paid for one, and given guys the blanket out of my trunk I always carried for emergencies and such, but never gave money.
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Old 9 June 2016, 08:33
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We were dining at an outdoor restaurant last night, in Warsaw, when an obviously homeless lady came up to our table from the sidewalk side, pantomiming that she wanted food. Nancy instantly held her plate up to the lady who grabbed food from the plate, stuffing it into her mouth. I was looking for a waiter to place an order for the lady to take with her, as the waiter approached the lady fled, obviously she did not think the restaurant wanted her around.
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Old 9 June 2016, 08:55
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I have very mixed feelings about the subject and often wonder about myself. Am I a hypocrite/asshole/libtard etc.

I usually reject beggars to the point of aggression and local ones know they must stay well out of my way, but every now and then am super generous and I don't know if it's just me that needs a psychologist. My built-in bearing-meter, or discrimination-meter, makes a quick assumption of a person and if I reckon it's a solid citizen/veteran who is genuinely down on his luck then I become father christmas. Sometimes even if the person is not even begging. An example, about six month ago I had just returned from a gig, flush with money, and visiting my local neighbourhood store and saw a guy out in the road looking out of sorts. Similar age to me, neatly dressed, good bearing, rucksack on his back, but just standing there looking like a deer in the headlights. So I just walked up, said "you look like you're having a rough day', handed over the wad I had in my pocket, and went to my car with him exclaiming thanks in the background.
Afterwards I thought to myself, why didn't I stay and talk to the guy? Why do I tell people to fuck off out my way daily but then do that to him?
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Old 9 June 2016, 09:56
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We were dining at an outdoor restaurant last night, in Warsaw, when an obviously homeless lady came up to our table from the sidewalk side, pantomiming that she wanted food. Nancy instantly held her plate up to the lady who grabbed food from the plate, stuffing it into her mouth. I was looking for a waiter to place an order for the lady to take with her, as the waiter approached the lady fled, obviously she did not think the restaurant wanted her around.
I have only encountered this on one occasion while in Poland, as most restaurants, (to include fast food joints) have security staff of some sort that is quick to remove people begging. I find that most of those that beg are almost exclusively at restaurants that have an outdoor area to eat at, which allows the quick get away you describe.

I am not a big fan of Warsaw, and rarely travel up their, as it is too much of big city life for me, and I just hate driving in that traffic. I hope you find time to grab some good grub in Krakow, and should you need a good recommendation on places I thoroughly enjoy, please let me know. What a small world SocNET is...
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Old 9 June 2016, 11:03
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I will give any bum a coffee and a sandwich, along with a 5 second "Jesus loves you and doesn't want you bumming spare change" speech.
Ha! I do the same. Except I do give money.
It's above my paygrade to determine if someone needs my help.
I'm of the mind and spirit to help when I can.
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Old 9 June 2016, 11:22
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I have only encountered this on one occasion while in Poland, as most restaurants, (to include fast food joints) have security staff of some sort that is quick to remove people begging. I find that most of those that beg are almost exclusively at restaurants that have an outdoor area to eat at, which allows the quick get away you describe.

I am not a big fan of Warsaw, and rarely travel up their, as it is too much of big city life for me, and I just hate driving in that traffic. I hope you find time to grab some good grub in Krakow, and should you need a good recommendation on places I thoroughly enjoy, please let me know. What a small world SocNET is...
We return home from Warsaw. I have also heard from other sources that Krakow is is a nicer city.
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Old 9 June 2016, 11:58
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You can all ways tell the ones that do it a lot, the sign they have can fold up real quick when they spot a Cop Car, they turn there back an start walking. I use to see this one individual that always standing on a Conner waiting for the light to turn red where he would hold up his sign.

One day I saw him in the supermarket putting all of his change thru one of those coin machine an then getting a slip of paper to hand to the clerk for the amount of money he had coming.

He was talking to the clerk an STATED well it looks like I can go the Casino an play poker. Next time I saw him panhandling I called the cops on the SOB.
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Old 9 June 2016, 12:27
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I look at their shoes, if they have nicer kicks than I do they can buzz off. If they are asking for money to eat I offer them food, never money.
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Old 9 June 2016, 12:55
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I avoid it at all costs. However, I was approached at a bank once by a dude who looked pretty rough. He did not ask for money, booze, or food. He stated that only wanted a shelter to sleep in, it was cold. I let him know the only ones were miles away. I saw a Sac PD officer in his patrol car and told him to ask the officer. He said no and was leary, so I said lets go talk to the man. Walked towards the officer waved and he waved us over. Pleaded the guys case and within 5 min, he had a cab coming to take him to a shelter. This was the only guy I ever considered giving some cash to.
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Old 9 June 2016, 13:13
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Old 9 June 2016, 20:22
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Another one I have ran across several times is at gas stations. I will get the "'scuse me sir. My wife and I are on our way to Anytown, USA but ran out of gas. Could you spare a few bucks?". Never once have I provided cash or gas. In fact I am normally rude and tell them to go inside and get an application for a job. Or I will ask why in fuck did you take a trip without proper planning for fuel.

I've ran out of gas on a trip many times, but NEVER because of piss poor planning and didn't have the money. It was always because my dumb ass pushed it "just one more exit!" only to realize the next exit was further than my tank would agree to.
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Old 9 June 2016, 21:24
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Only one who claimed to be a vet...he was a 20 something wearing hunter's camo from Bass Pro w/bloused boots and didn't look the least bit homeless. All I could do was laugh at him.
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Old 9 June 2016, 23:55
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Panhandlers with signs... it's against the law in Massachusetts to solicit from a motor vehicle on a public way. $50 fine. We occasionally have some that cluster in high traffic, high visibility spots. They make out like bandits in some spots. I used to give them money once in a while before I was a cop. Every, single, one is either an addict, chronic alcoholic, career criminal or both. I chase them off now with a warning or a court complaint if they're repeat offenders. I've arrested one guy because I advised him of the law and that he needed to leave, I came back an hour later and he was back, then he argued and yelled with traffic all over the place stopping to watch the show.

I had one guy who had been charged 8 times in like two months try and pull the veteran card on me. He'd been locked up routinely his whole adult life.

I saw a young homeless dude yesterday wearing a woodland boonie hat carrying a woodland day pack. There's no way he was in the military when woodland shit was issued but I'm guessing that's part of his spiel. I also had an old guy come up to me the other day spouting off about he was in the 101st, Airborne Ranger, Special Forces in Vietnam. I asked him what group he was in and he said Special Forces. I asked what his MOS was in SF and he said infantry. He had no clue what 18anything meant.

I had a guy under arrest for a warrant who started yelling about being a Marine in a room with two Marines, a Seabee and an Army vet. I asked where he fought and he said Lebanon in like 1990 and that we wouldn't know anything about it because it was secret. We almost laughed him right out of cuffs.

One of my best friends is a recovering addict who works for veterans services. He's a huge success story, gone from strung out hard and on a two year crime streak to years of solid employment marching up the management ranks, engaged to a great girl, doing great in life. He was essentially bottomed out narcotic wise and criminal wise before being arrested and was on his way back up when we met. He's one of those "being arrested saved his life" guys. He's said that me treating him like just another Marine was huge to him in that process and he went from random dude I met in the gym to being in my wedding party five years later, one of my tightest friends in the world. I've referred multiple legit vets to him over the years because they are out there needing help. They just don't come up to you with a bullshit story crying poor me. We've had two guys under arrest in the past week or so who legitimately were in Baghdad, knew all the right answers, etc. The legit guys don't throw it around like a get out of jail free card and you actually have to kind of draw them out and engage them in conversation.
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Old 10 June 2016, 08:04
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The ACLU in Rhode Island sent a letter to the Mayor of Providence saying that it was a person's right to panhandle. So of course the City just lays down and allows this to happen. Just down the street from the Armory I work in is Panhandle Alley (at this large intersection). The people that panhandle there have fights on whos corner it is. Lots of guys in ACUs, Woodland and every other kind of camys stand there all day hustling cars.
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Old 10 June 2016, 09:29
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in a room with two Marines, a Seabee and an Army vet. .[/QUOTE]

Has the makings for a good joke.

Stopp, is that around Haven Bros?
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Old 10 June 2016, 10:52
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No, it's north of there on North Main Street, by where the old Providence Reds Arena was.
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Old 10 June 2016, 14:16
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We had a guy on the cruiser I was on in Pearl back in the early 80's who had a special set of beggar clothes. Whenever he ran out of beer money he'd suit up and go work a corner in Waikiki for a couple of hours, make enough to fund his weekend. I guess tourists are easy marks.
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Old 16 June 2016, 07:31
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Back in my younger Marine days, when I needed beer money (was always broke) I'd visit the local blood bank. $15 a pint IIRC. Never once thought about asking anyone for anything.
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Old 16 June 2016, 16:17
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Had a few at the local Safeway store.I ask the guy, what branch? Army....What rank when you got out....petty officer..... aye??!.When did you serve?....Vietnam....oh really....What year were you born?....1958....OMG get flock out o' here!!.I was 1957 and was Vietnam era but no way .I was 15.....you were 14!....what were you a fuk boy over there Richard Petty Officer??.than he gets pissed...haha! think I actually embarrassed him.However there have been some legit veterans I make point to help, even a few beers for a Kitty hawk CV63 vet.can't help your own kind then you might be a cold hearted bastard.
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