Go Back   SOCNET: The Special Operations Community Network > U.S. Army Special Operations > Special Forces

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 8 July 2017, 17:03
The Fat Guy's Avatar
The Fat Guy The Fat Guy is offline
The Sagacious One
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Pushing string down the hall
Posts: 12,698
Ballad of the Green Berets

The SF guys from Viet Nam raised me as a cadet, taught me to land navigate, taught me patrolling and leadership in general. My first Tm Sgt was a Son Tay Raider. Today while looking for garden brick a brack for HH6 and other older collectibles, I found this for $10. The lady said it didn't have the record in it, it was just a framed album cover. Low and behold, when I get it home and apart, the album is inside. Here's to you MSG Robertson.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg ballad gb.jpg (20.0 KB, 414 views)
__________________
No one will take better care of us, than us: Suicide Hotline: 1-800-273-8255
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 8 July 2017, 17:30
gavin's Avatar
gavin gavin is offline
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Back where it all began
Posts: 4,749
Paging 18C4V, 18C4V to the SF area...

I am not a fan of the song...hey, 18C4V, do you remember when we refused to sing it for Gray Davis?
__________________
Clumsy Latin Phrase!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 18 July 2017, 14:32
18C4V's Avatar
18C4V 18C4V is offline
BTDT
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: California
Posts: 2,563
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavin View Post
I am not a fan of the song...hey, 18C4V, do you remember when we refused to sing it for Gray Davis?
Sorry, late to the thread. Your memory is sharp as a tack, I totally forgot about that one.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 18 July 2017, 16:25
gavin's Avatar
gavin gavin is offline
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Back where it all began
Posts: 4,749
Quote:
Originally Posted by 18C4V View Post
Sorry, late to the thread. Your memory is sharp as a tack, I totally forgot about that one.
Had we gone with the program and sung it, Gray would have beaten Arnold in the recall...or not...
__________________
Clumsy Latin Phrase!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 8 July 2017, 19:21
Sigi's Avatar
Sigi Sigi is offline
Life is simple, not easy.
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3,340
My parents had that very album. I listened to it as a kid. Haven't seen that album cover in probably 30 years.
__________________
bravodelta: "If they start taxing lapdances, I think I'll call it quits and become a chaplain."

Chaplain: "God moves in mysterious ways...", but ... well.... uhh... welcome aboard!


"If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world, but I am sure we would be getting reports from Hell before breakfast."
William Tecumseh Sherman
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 8 July 2017, 19:26
Purple36's Avatar
Purple36 Purple36 is offline
Swimming Upstream
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: East Coast
Posts: 8,780
Very cool, good find TFG. A friend has a band here, BonesFork that has their own version of the song, it's way more grungy.
__________________
- Faith involves believing in the veracity of the unprovable and unobservable, whether that consists of religion or theoretical physics, which at the very subatomic level start looking rather similar. -ET1/SS Nuke
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 8 July 2017, 20:57
gavin's Avatar
gavin gavin is offline
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Back where it all began
Posts: 4,749
Quote:
Originally Posted by Purple36 View Post
Very cool, good find TFG. A friend has a band here, BonesFork that has their own version of the song, it's way more grungy.
BonesFork...nice!
__________________
Clumsy Latin Phrase!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 8 July 2017, 22:55
don's Avatar
don don is offline
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Isle of Misfit Toys
Posts: 215
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavin View Post
BonesFork...nice!
How about "Drowning Creek"? That has possibilities too.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 9 July 2017, 00:30
gavin's Avatar
gavin gavin is offline
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Back where it all began
Posts: 4,749
Quote:
Originally Posted by don View Post
How about "Drowning Creek"? That has possibilities too.
The list of possible band names based on references to arcane slang names associated with the star exam are endless yet intriguing...Scuba Road? Puppy Palace? Three Wire Road? Woods Pond! Big Muddy!!!
__________________
Clumsy Latin Phrase!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12 July 2017, 05:08
xdisembodiedgrlx's Avatar
xdisembodiedgrlx xdisembodiedgrlx is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tacoma,WA
Posts: 115
Quote:
Originally Posted by Purple36 View Post
Very cool, good find TFG. A friend has a band here, BonesFork that has their own version of the song, it's way more grungy.
Haha I love Bonesfork! Just waiting for them to go on tour as Robert said one day they were and they would play around JBLAM! 🤘🏻
I love the many of versions of The Ballad of the Green Beret including, of course, the original. It never ceases to make me misty eyed and nostalgic.
__________________
I love those guys with green eyes at night.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 8 July 2017, 23:04
Bronco Bronco is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: D.C. area
Posts: 10
Just got hooked on the music by Bonesfork. Thanks Gavin.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 8 July 2017, 23:13
Bronco Bronco is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: D.C. area
Posts: 10
My mistake, Purple36 mentioned Bonesfork. Thanks for letting us know about their version. Amazing find TFG.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 8 July 2017, 23:38
bobmueller bobmueller is offline
Did...did I do that?
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Green Country, Oklahoma
Posts: 979
The very first band piece I ever marched to was The Ballad, for the local Memorial Day Parade. 1979? Freshman year.
__________________
This message is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 9 July 2017, 06:54
Ole crusty bastard's Avatar
Ole crusty bastard Ole crusty bastard is offline
Authorized Personnel
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Port Charlotte FL
Posts: 4,211
Sang along with that song for several weeks.

Cool avatar.

I was wanting to try for Special Forces, but at the time one of the main recruiting points was that you would have to kill, skin, cook and eat a snake. Homey don't do snakes.

They should of let SSG Sadler go back to Vietnam.
__________________
...when in doubt...over prime.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 9 July 2017, 08:46
Oldpogue Oldpogue is offline
Old and Grumpy
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Northern Cental Indiana
Posts: 1,744
Do they still play that song at the graduation from the Q course?
__________________
Everybody is entitled to their opinion. Of course that lets in the crackpots, but if you can't tell a crackpot when you see one, you oughta be taken in. Harry Truman
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 9 July 2017, 11:18
gavin's Avatar
gavin gavin is offline
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Back where it all began
Posts: 4,749
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldpogue View Post
Do they still play that song at the graduation from the Q course?
They play it every time we do anything..."Ladies and Gentlemen, this concludes our ceremony. Please stand for the playing of the National Anthem and the Ballad of the Green Berets."
__________________
Clumsy Latin Phrase!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 9 July 2017, 11:18
Astronomy Astronomy is online now
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 158
When I went through Camp Mackall, they played that song over the loudspeakers, every morning at zero dark thirty, to roust us out of the tar paper shacks. At max scratchy volume.

I grew to hate it then. More so later. Especially at SF ceremonies, parades, and official functions. TPTB ruined it for me. Like the institutionalized term "Quiet Professionals, it just seemed silly. I still admire the original vocals by Sadler. It's a memorable tune and lyrics. All the subsequent choir & marching band versions suck.

Like other cheesy songs ("Puff the Magic Dragon" anyone?), you can dislike their over-played run, but you don't ever forget them. Ear worms. "The Ballad of the Green Beret" is a melody that played across most of my life... with different significance at each stage. So I've got mixed feelings about it. Don't really like it... but I can sing all the lyrics.

I think I was about 6 years old when my parents bought the debut album. Army brat dependent living in Korea. I loved the song back then. Presumably, they still have it in their dusty album collection from the 50's & 60's. I need to check.

"Garritrooper" is another great tune off that album.

Excellent find by The Fat Guy.
__________________
The moral high ground is sometimes just a head on a long pike...
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 9 July 2017, 16:10
Tracy's Avatar
Tracy Tracy is offline
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Feb 1997
Location: West
Posts: 10,772
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astronomy View Post
When I went through Camp Mackall, they played that song over the loudspeakers, every morning at zero dark thirty, to roust us out of the tar paper shacks. At max scratchy volume...
Oh yeah, and Patton's speech from the movie.

We had a speaker mounted on our shack and we constantly tried to quietly disconnect the speaker. The cadre would just as quietly reconnect it. Went on like that for all of Phase 1.

I had to be retired for a few years before I stopped twitching every time I heard that song...
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10 July 2017, 10:37
Astronomy Astronomy is online now
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 158
Yeah, the Patton Speech queered the movie for me. Another soundtrack that just caused me to flinch for ever after. LOL.

I know it was all supposed to be motivating, but it was really more like Manuel Noriega getting blasted by PSYOP speakers in Panama...

One Friday at Bragg (while I was at Phase 1), some ODA from 5th or 7th imploded, with most team members seeking other employment. One of those guys got immediately assigned to Phase 1 SWC Cadre and was placed in charge of PT for that very Sunday. New guy gets the weekend duty I guess.

At 0430, instead of the Ballad or Patton Speech... he put on classical music at the TAC shack. Beethoven, Wagner, etc. Amazing. We're all out in the sawdust pit, knocking out endless flutter kicks & push-ups to the soothing sounds of strings, woodwinds, & brass.

It was great. Motivating. Relaxing. He was a PT animal and smoked us hard. We didn't mind. That music was still playing when we came back through the gate after a rucksack speed march.

Naturally, it was a one time event. No room for free-thinking cadre instructors. Back to high volume Sadler & George C. Scott for every day afterward.
__________________
The moral high ground is sometimes just a head on a long pike...
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11 July 2017, 14:54
Spinner's Avatar
Spinner Spinner is offline
Pele's Bucket of Fire?...never heard of it
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 11,374
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astronomy View Post

At 0430, instead of the Ballad or Patton Speech... he put on classical music at the TAC shack. Beethoven, Wagner, etc. Amazing. We're all out in the sawdust pit, knocking out endless flutter kicks & push-ups to the soothing sounds of strings, woodwinds, & brass.

It was great. Motivating. Relaxing. He was a PT animal and smoked us hard. We didn't mind. That music was still playing when we came back through the gate after a rucksack speed march.

Naturally, it was a one time event. No room for free-thinking cadre instructors. Back to high volume Sadler & George C. Scott for every day afterward.
Your post reminds me of Andy Dufresne in The Shawshank Redemption, locking himself in the warden's office and playing classical music over the prison loudspeakers.

Some things are too good to last.

As for the Ballad of the Green Beret, I guess for those who serve in that community and have to listen to it more than the average Joe, it gets kind of old. I've only heard the song a handful of times, doesn't really bother me that much.

I thought that Wag the Dog did a pretty good parody/satire of the Ballad with a song based on the fictitious unit "The 303" toward the end of the movie. The unit was fictional not only in it only being a movie, but also was fictitious in the context of the movie's plot, too.

You can definitely hear the influence of the Ballad of the Green Berets in the song.

Check out the berets, half black half Cheetah print.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47a7PKhpFJ0
__________________
"This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who!"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Our new posting rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 20:40.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Socnet.com All Rights Reserved
SOCNET