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Old 20 January 2013, 21:55
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Reloading Thread

Since we have a bulk ammo deal thread, and that thread is becoming a source of frustration due to lack of supply; it seems many are going to need to turn to learning how to reload. And those that know how to reload are probably going to want to pick up their game.

It seems this might be a good place for us to share knowledge, and for those who want to learn, gain new knowledge.

What does your setup look like?

Best practices?

I've got a Hornady Lock-n-Load AP that I've never used. I got it just as I starting going through a divorce back in 2000; and it got put in a box and forgotten about until a few months ago. Never used, but I'm very anxious to learn; even more considering the current climate.
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Old 20 January 2013, 22:26
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#1 Rule of reloading.....Buy a good manual and use it.
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Old 20 January 2013, 22:58
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Any recommendations on a good manual?
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Old 20 January 2013, 23:05
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Any recommendations on a good manual?
ABC's of Reloading is a great place to start.
www.amazon [dot]com/ABCs-Reloading-Definitive-Novice-Expert/dp/1440213968

I have been reloading for over 20 years. Started out reloading for bullseye (45ACP) and benchrest (.223, 6BR). For the past 6 years, I have been reloading for IDPA (9mm, 38sp, 45ACP). I have a Dillon 550 for most work, but I still have an arbor press for the occasional accurate rifle load.

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Old 20 January 2013, 23:05
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Most have decent "how to"or "getting started" sections. The Speer is pretty good, with plenty of pictures. Lyman is good if you're into cast bullets.

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Old 20 January 2013, 23:42
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I started out with a RCBS Rock Chucker starter set that was given to me as a gift. I must've read the manual a dozen times before I even attempted to crank out a round. I was so proud of my first reload...until I measured it with some calipers and found the OAL way off. Once I got into it, though, I decided that progressive is the way to go for any sort of quantity, so after some research, I purchased a Hornady LnL AP as well. I looked real hard at the Dillons, but at the time they were a bit too pricey for me, and Midway was running a sale on the Hornady for around $350. For those who are starting - I really recommend starting with a single stage to learn before moving up to a progressive. You can really screw stuff up quick with a progressive if you're not careful. Single stages are still good for precision loads or as a "utility" press for decapping or swedging primer pockets once you get a progressive setup.

For Diverescue - Brian Enos has a pretty good description of the different Dillons on his site, although he sells them so I can't say that it's entirely unbiased. I think with 20/20 hindsight I'd have gone with the 650 if I had the money, but I've been very satisfied with my Hornady.
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Old 21 January 2013, 00:25
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This is the new age!

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp

http://www.reloadersnest.com/rifle.asp

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/index.aspx

All good places for load data. Manuals are still the best for actual reloading procedures. Easiest way to get into single stage loading, bar none is the Lee Challenger Kit...

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/423081/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press-anniversary-kit

I've loaded somewhere north of 8K rounds of 9, 45, 357, 44, 6mm Rem, and 300 Win Mag on one and it still works fine. Comes with a press, powder dropper, scale, priming tool, instructions and pretty much everything else except dies.
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Old 21 January 2013, 00:28
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I have 4 different manuals. 2 Sierras, 1 Hornady, 1 Nosler. Each is a little different in how they present info and what they key on. Any one of them would work. I run a lot of different bullets for different calibers, and generally start with the manufactures loads, to build my own.They have a lot more money and time to spend developing loads than I do. I have the same Lee turret press I got 85 ish. But I do mostly hunting rifles, with a little .45 and .44 mixed in. I just grin and bear it for the pistol stuff.
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Old 21 January 2013, 07:48
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I just started researching this a few days ago, after my efforts to find 9mm came up short. This thread is long overdue. Never reloaded a day in my life and wanted something like "The Idiots Guide to Handloading: How Not To Blow Yourself Up" :)

I found this Intro link a great resource:

http://www.handloads.com/articles/default.asp?id=33

Anyone know a ballpark Entry Level single press, a set of decent smooth wall dies for 9mm, and a shellplate would run? Just trying to get a ballpark idea on cost before I go to the wife and request funding. Might be a worthwhile hobby (assuming that powder and primers remain available).

Also, spoke to a buddy of mine yesterday who is a Fed LEO....saying that .223 bottleneck reloads are going for a $1.00 right now. Crazy.

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Old 21 January 2013, 08:51
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choke, there are good youtubes on your press.

I have used Lee Pro 1000's decades ago. I dug them out, sent them to Lee for repair and ended up getting 2 new presses for 1/2 the price.

The thing about books I have noticed from 20 years ago is that the loads are much milder. The low end loads may not even cycle your gun while the highend seem much milder than factory ammo.

I use the Lyman 49th Edition
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Old 21 January 2013, 09:09
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Read all of the manuals and articles you can find and when you’re done you may be able to find components. A lot of people have jumped on the reloading band wagon as of late because of the lack of ammo only to find a lack of bullets, primers and powder.
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Old 21 January 2013, 10:16
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Stuff you'll need

Links to press manufacturer product pages:

Hornady Lock-n-Load AP:
http://www.hornady.com/store/Lock-N-Load-AP/

Dillon Precision:
http://www.dillonprecision.com/Dillo...hines-8-1.html

RCBS:
https://shop.rcbs.com/WebConnect/Mai...categoryId=C04

Lyman:
http://www.lymanproducts.com/lyman/presses-and-kits/

"Stuff" you'll need:
Shell Holder
Priming Arm
Reloading Die Set
Scale
Powder Measure
Powder Funnel
Case Lubricant with Pad
Case Trimmer
Deburring Tool
Vernier Caliper or Case Length Gauge
Reloading Data
Primer Tray
Tumbler

Stuff that goes boom after booger hooks press the bang button:
Rifle Powder:
-Example-IMR 4064 Smokeless Powder http://www.midwayusa.com/product/132...okeless-powder

Pistol Powder:
- Example: .38/.357, & .30 Carbine:http://www.midwayusa.com/product/952...okeless-powder
- Example: .45ACP, .30 Luger http://www.midwayusa.com/product/689...okeless-powder

Pistol Primers:
- CCI Small Pistol (.38/.357)http://www.midwayusa.com/product/332...ol-primers-500
- CCI Large Pistol (.45ACP) http://www.midwayusa.com/product/657...ol-primers-300

Rifle Primers:
- CCI Large Rifle http://www.midwayusa.com/product/151...le-primers-200
- CCI Small Rifle (.30 Carbine) http://www.midwayusa.com/product/959...le-primers-400

Nice to have:
Automatic Primer Feed
Case Neck Brush
Inside Neck Reamers
Outside Neck Turner
Drop Tube Funnel
Primer Pocket Cleaner
Primer Pocket Reamer
Powder Dribbler
Bullet Puller


Guys who actually know what they're doing, did I miss anything?
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Old 21 January 2013, 12:06
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Guys who actually know what they're doing, did I miss anything?
Not missing, just my prefrence.
Using Carbide dies(Lee), no need to lube the brass, specifically pistol brass. I don't lube til I get into belted magnums. You can, just messy and extra step.

I use a hand primer(lee), I can sit in front of the tube and do 100's at a time. Again just my prefrence(single stage press). If you are using a Progressive press your mileage will defintely vary.As you can see there are a few.
http://www.midwayusa.com/find?userSearchQuery=hand+primer

Bullet puller, have a plan for it. You will use it. Half the time I use pliers, but it does booger up the bullet if'n your not careful
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What are we looking at for initial set up costs for a novice? (All of the items listed by chokeu2.)
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Old 21 January 2013, 12:36
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Not missing, just my prefrence.
Using Carbide dies(Lee), no need to lube the brass, specifically pistol brass. I don't lube til I get into belted magnums. You can, just messy and extra step.

I use a hand primer(lee), I can sit in front of the tube and do 100's at a time. Again just my prefrence(single stage press). If you are using a Progressive press your mileage will defintely vary.As you can see there are a few.
http://www.midwayusa.com/find?userSearchQuery=hand+primer

Bullet puller, have a plan for it. You will use it. Half the time I use pliers, but it does booger up the bullet if'n your not careful
Thanks for that.

Prime example of the gem's that come from people with a clue.

I posted that list as an academic exercise; I'm very much new to reloading.
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What are we looking at for initial set up costs for a novice? (All of the items listed by chokeu2.)
Someone keep me honest, but factoring in recent price increases, you're probably looking at a grand to get everything you need.

You could have gotten in around 6-800 before the hysteria.

It is an investment for a long term best practice that is going to prove itself to be worthwhile for shooters.
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What are we looking at for initial set up costs for a novice? (All of the items listed by chokeu2.)
Depends. You can into a Lee single stage Turret press kit for $225 or so. Everything you need. With execption of calipers, I think. Also need all the componets (brass,primers,powder,bullets). Without Dies. Didn't see a manual either.Also need to consider where(bench) your gonna do this.I reloaded for years with just that kit.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/785993/lee-4-hole-turret-press-with-auto-index-deluxe-kit

RCBS Rock Chuker runs about $350

Any of you Ga guys ever get up to North Ga, and want to stop by to see a basic setup. Let me know, my house is open.
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I never regretted my Dillon investment, although I see the prices have risen. A money saving necessity for my IPSC practice... and, now, an investment for the future.
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Depends. You can into a Lee single stage Turret press kit for $225 or so. Everything you need. With execption of calipers, I think. Also need all the componets (brass,primers,powder,bullets). Without Dies. Didn't see a manual either.Also need to consider where(bench) your gonna do this.I reloaded for years with just that kit.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/785993/lee-4-hole-turret-press-with-auto-index-deluxe-kit

RCBS Rock Chuker runs about $350

Any of you Ga guys ever get up to North Ga, and want to stop by to see a basic setup. Let me know, my house is open.
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I bought my Hornady in 2000, right when going through a divorce. It got put in a box, and I only rediscovered it a couple months ago. Forgotten and un-used for all that time.
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Any of you Ga guys ever get up to North Ga, and want to stop by to see a basic setup. Let me know, my house is open.
Thanks for the invite, I may have to do that soon. The cost of restocking and shooting at local matches is getting cost prohibitive.

You may want to rethink your offer to chokeu2 though...he likes to roll around on the floor with other men.
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