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Old 17 August 2016, 17:44
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I feel selfish hopping around the LE forum resurrecting old threads; but at the same time much has changed since this thread last active. I begin my academy next month, and was curious if there's any other PERSEC I should be aware of- besides the obvious?

I have no facebook, minimal web presence and that which is there doesn't have my name on it. I'm in TX and have taken note of the area specific suggestions so far in this thread. A few bills in my name, currently renting an apartment so no home ownership on county tax records.

Just trying to get ahead of the curve. Thanks for the help so far.
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Old 17 August 2016, 20:32
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Establish a trust with a non-associated or alerting name. Establish it in a different state than the one in which you live. Use this to buy and hold assets. If you want additional safety, wrap it in an llc. Use PO Boxes of mail forwarders (like myrvmail) as an address for all assets and have all your mail sent to this box. Forward it to anther box (again registered to the trust) near you. After these steps, move your residence and do ALL business through your "no name" trust. It costs about $400 per year after a $1000 start-up cost.

Don't order pizza for delivery, ever.

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Old 17 August 2016, 20:36
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Oh yeah, subscribe to all utilities through your trust and do not give PIi with any company that has a long set of conditions.
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Old 17 August 2016, 21:54
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I feel selfish hopping around the LE forum resurrecting old threads; but at the same time much has changed since this thread last active. I begin my academy next month, and was curious if there's any other PERSEC I should be aware of- besides the obvious?

I have no facebook, minimal web presence and that which is there doesn't have my name on it. I'm in TX and have taken note of the area specific suggestions so far in this thread. A few bills in my name, currently renting an apartment so no home ownership on county tax records.

Just trying to get ahead of the curve. Thanks for the help so far.

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Old 18 August 2016, 00:57
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Old 18 August 2016, 08:34
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At the point in my career I am now I say keep your skills sharp, protect and insulate your family as well as you can, and always be prepared to take things to the next level when encountering potential bad guys. You should always have the following items readily accessible, no matter if fishing on your boat, mowing your yard, or walking in the mall with family.

Pistol
At least one reload
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Restraints (can be as simple as shoestring style flex cuffs)

When I say keep your skills sharp that includes shooting and the other normal LE type training but also taking care of your body. I went thru a period as an LE manager where I made excuses for not going to the gym. I got sloppy and out of shape. Big mistake. I've been back in gym now for three years straight and am 47 years old. I don't heal as fast now but can run three miles in under 27 minutes and bench almost twice my body weight and I weigh just over 200 pounds. Bottom line is that if you are going to do this job you owe it to your family, yourself, and those you protect to be in good shape. Don't be that sloppy fat-ass cop no one can count on to back them up.

Be respectful to the public but have a mindset where you are always ready to escalate if needed. Don't become complacent.
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Old 18 August 2016, 09:18
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^^^Very well said my brother! You hit all the key points!
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Old 18 August 2016, 10:35
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Duck Marshal,
Good advice, well said, and stay safe
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Old 18 August 2016, 12:30
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At the point in my career I am now I say keep your skills sharp, protect and insulate your family as well as you can, and always be prepared to take things to the next level when encountering potential bad guys. You should always have the following items readily accessible, no matter if fishing on your boat, mowing your yard, or walking in the mall with family.

Pistol
At least one reload
Knife
Flashlight
Med kit
Cell phone
Restraints (can be as simple as shoestring style flex cuffs)

When I say keep your skills sharp that includes shooting and the other normal LE type training but also taking care of your body. I went thru a period as an LE manager where I made excuses for not going to the gym. I got sloppy and out of shape. Big mistake. I've been back in gym now for three years straight and am 47 years old. I don't heal as fast now but can run three miles in under 27 minutes and bench almost twice my body weight and I weigh just over 200 pounds. Bottom line is that if you are going to do this job you owe it to your family, yourself, and those you protect to be in good shape. Don't be that sloppy fat-ass cop no one can count on to back them up.

Be respectful to the public but have a mindset where you are always ready to escalate if needed. Don't become complacent.
On point...Very well stated.
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Old 18 August 2016, 16:10
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Paranoia

It's healthy to be somewhat paranoid. Watch your six. Look in your rear view for familiar vehicles. Be suspicious of "coincidences", sometimes they're not! An arrestee once admitted to following me home with his buddy for the purpose of hitting my house later. As referenced above, complacency kills.
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Old 24 December 2016, 11:51
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I have had cars drive by and take photos of my house. Pretty sure it was a recon.
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Old 26 December 2016, 01:04
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If i see a car that stays behind me for any unreasonable period of time i never go straight home.
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Old 26 December 2016, 10:36
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Thank y'all dearly for the advice. I've got about 9 more weeks in my academy then it's off to the road. I am curious to insight if anyone has suggestions on the take home vehicle. I plan on hiding all my bills etc... but having the black and white come to the same house each day is quite an indicator- clearly means you must have every other layer of security in check since anyone who WANTS to find you, will.

I plan on parking it in the garage and like Duck Marshall said- never go straight home/ alternate routes etc...

The only plus side is I'll be in a part of the country that is VERY LE friendly, but still plenty of dirt bags.
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Old 26 December 2016, 15:00
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If i see a car that stays behind me for any unreasonable period of time i never go straight home.
I have a convenient little network of SD routes near my house. Wife doesn't even bat an eyelash anymore.
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Old 26 December 2016, 20:30
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Thank y'all dearly for the advice. I've got about 9 more weeks in my academy then it's off to the road. I am curious to insight if anyone has suggestions on the take home vehicle. I plan on hiding all my bills etc... but having the black and white come to the same house each day is quite an indicator- clearly means you must have every other layer of security in check since anyone who WANTS to find you, will.

I plan on parking it in the garage and like Duck Marshall said- never go straight home/ alternate routes etc...

The only plus side is I'll be in a part of the country that is VERY LE friendly, but still plenty of dirt bags.
Brother, I am past the point where I worry about the bad guys knowing where me and family live. You can't prevent it...and, in this day and age, you can barely slow it down. They know where you live. If I feel I am being followed, I confront it. If someone wants to meet me...we are going to do it on my terms. I'm too old to play stupid games with people.

If you have a marked unit and are concerned about people seeing it and knowing you are LE, you may want to do something else. I'm not trying to shoot you down or talk down to you, but that shouldn't be a concern, IMO.
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Old 26 December 2016, 20:49
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Alot of real good advice in this thread.

Train your family. Train your family. Train your family.
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Old 26 December 2016, 21:16
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I lived and worked in both a large jurisdiction and a small one with a take home car. In a small or rural town, everyone knows you and where you live, don't try to kid yourself. The best thing you can do is be mentally and physically prepared to take action at all times. Equipment is necessary, but only half the battle, you must work out and you must be mentally in the game everyday. Treat people right and it will come back to you tenfold, maybe not that night, but years later when they stand up for you in public or are on a jury. There are no easy fixes to hard problems and don't expect that you will solve the hard problems you come across by yourself. Don't be afraid to ask for help when you need it and keep your dick in your damn pants.

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Old 26 December 2016, 22:05
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Old 28 December 2016, 11:17
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Brother, I am past the point where I worry about the bad guys knowing where me and family live. You can't prevent it...and, in this day and age, you can barely slow it down. They know where you live. If I feel I am being followed, I confront it. If someone wants to meet me...we are going to do it on my terms. I'm too old to play stupid games with people.

If you have a marked unit and are concerned about people seeing it and knowing you are LE, you may want to do something else. I'm not trying to shoot you down or talk down to you, but that shouldn't be a concern, IMO.
Not "concerned" per se, just curious if there was anything I had missed. I'm in it for the long haul.

The wife already got her CHL and has taken a few pistol courses on her own to get trained up as well. (I figured her learning from someone else would keep it less stress free and make her more open to instruction than from me, well worth the $)

I've got no issues confronting the turd, it's the wife being marked that I have concern with.
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