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Old 20 June 2019, 15:07
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Guardian Firewall?

Looks interesting.

What's the big brains opinion on this new product?
https://guardianapp.com/blog/2019/06...ewall-for-ios/
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Old 21 June 2019, 00:28
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It does sound interesting. I’d like to know more about it
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Old 21 June 2019, 01:32
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Appears they built Little Snitch for iOS. If they can do half of what they say, I'll be a fan.

The landmine I foresee is putting it on one of my exec's devices and then it blowing up with alerts. How it handles UX will be key.
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Old 21 June 2019, 06:29
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Pretty f'n neat, LOL! When I read the first few lines, I was like: "how in the phuck did they get Big Apple to allow a firewall!?" I absolutely bet Apple HATED approving this, LOL! Kudos to these guys.

TLDR; You're not really running firewall software on your device, you're running a VPN Client that tunnels absolutely everything to Guardian's VPN server - and *IT* has the firewall/rules running on itself, to filter your traffic.
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Old 21 June 2019, 07:24
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I saw a blurb in there that Guardian can go across multiple platforms. I wonder if they're looking at laptops as well...
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Old 22 June 2019, 15:39
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Good reason to go Apple. I will if it doesn't end up being cross-platform.

Sick of being an information mine.
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Old 24 June 2019, 06:37
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Sick of being an information mine.
That ship has sailed. The US is abhorrent when it comes to privacy and everyday tracking. For instance, I often run into folks who proclaim that they disable their GPS, or have it explicitly deny access to their apps. Sadly, many apps these days bypass geolocation using your phone's GPS radio by simply collecting data about your home router and associated network.

The amount of hoops one has to jump through to minimize data collection is staggering.

This app does look promising, but I would need to look at the fine-print more. Still, it may be a good start. I'm jaded to think Apple doesn't get some bite of this, or exclusivity in terms of what they can collect, versus all other third-parties.
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Old 24 June 2019, 08:33
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I minimize apps to the greatest extent possible and now actually read the EULAs. And I use data rather than WIFI whenever I can, even at home, but I"m sure it's still a losing battle.
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Thanks for the info, CV. I tend to think of the app permissions page in my Android as 'suggestions' for the apps rather than real permissions.

One day I'll drive something with a carburetor, and a map in the glovebox. Goes without saying, I'll have ditched the smartphone.
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Has anyone had any experience with this one yet? It’s a toss up between this and Nord for me at this point.
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Old 23 August 2019, 09:32
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The Privacy Wave is cresting. This almost seems unreal. Definitely something to dig into.

The fact you have to pay for it is a very, very good thing.
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Has anyone had any experience with this one yet? It’s a toss up between this and Nord for me at this point.
Same question? I would love to have something like this in place if it works as advertised.
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Old 23 August 2019, 10:20
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It's less about using the proxy (the VPN), which in 2019 is not adding that much security, and more about blowing out of the water the embedded trackers in the apps themselves.

Using a VPN doesn't increase much security other than in specific circumstances, such as using public WiFi or other hostile network.

I just read through the app documentation. Looks promising, and appears the cost will go towards supporting an active threat-intel team. I dig it.

I'm not a fan of them using the term 'firewall', but that seems mostly a marketing tactic.
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I'm a bit of a fatalist when it comes to tracking devices on a network. You connect to a network, you can be tracked. That's how it works. In order to get a response to your request for the latest porn, Youporn needs to be able to route back to you. You can use a VPN if you like to make it look like you're in Poland or Taiwan, or whatever but you're building a tunnel from where you're at to wherever you finally pop out in cleartext and that assumes the designer of the VPN didn't take shortcuts like bypassing the VPN for DNS lookups so you're not sitting there for 30+ seconds waiting for something to happen.

Bottom line - if you're planning some nefarious shit, you need to get nefarious. Don't assume there's some magical way to take your Sprint cell phone paid for with your debit card and do some cool clandestine ops.

Sorry if that bursts anyone's bubble but at the end of the day it's all about bandwidth, storage, and the ability to put 2+2 together to make 4. US (and other nation's) government intel may not be the sharpest tools in the shed but they've got time, resources, and capability you just don't have.
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Old 24 August 2019, 20:19
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If you’re targeted, I don’t disagree. For general thresholding, Tools like Guardian or Mullvad are good options.
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I'm a bit of a fatalist when it comes to tracking devices on a network. You connect to a network, you can be tracked. That's how it works. In order to get a response to your request for the latest porn, Youporn needs to be able to route back to you. You can use a VPN if you like to make it look like you're in Poland or Taiwan, or whatever but you're building a tunnel from where you're at to wherever you finally pop out in cleartext and that assumes the designer of the VPN didn't take shortcuts like bypassing the VPN for DNS lookups so you're not sitting there for 30+ seconds waiting for something to happen.

Bottom line - if you're planning some nefarious shit, you need to get nefarious. Don't assume there's some magical way to take your Sprint cell phone paid for with your debit card and do some cool clandestine ops.

Sorry if that bursts anyone's bubble but at the end of the day it's all about bandwidth, storage, and the ability to put 2+2 together to make 4. US (and other nation's) government intel may not be the sharpest tools in the shed but they've got time, resources, and capability you just don't have.
Wow! Good thing you posted, otherwise everyone would think this tech would make them invisible.....
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