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All I care about is the Bill of Rights (as well as the rest of the document). I don't like people telling me what to do, how to spend my time, or what I should think or believe. I am going to vote for whichever candidate is most in line with my POV. I don't care if that candidate is gay, straight, LGBTQWERTY, or self-identifies as a fence post.
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If I cared about the sexual activities of the gay Mayor, then I should have the same righteous indignation for our current POTUS’s sexual activities. Both have a dubious moral history, from my Christian perspective.
But i don’t judge my leaders based on how they act in private. I judge them based on their ability to, well, be a leader. Obama was, by all accounts, a good family man, but I agreed with almost none of his decisions as POTUS. I think President Trump is a hot mess, with respect to the way he acts sometimes, but I admire his ability to get shit done, and his ability to toe the constitutional line as much as is possible. And that’s why he got my vote. I believe that he is trying to make America better. If the mayor in South Bend were a Constitution-adhering, fiscally-conservative candidate, I would consider voting for him. No matter where he parks his hot dog at night. And I think many Americans (outhereinflyovercountry) feel the same way. The average American is far more tolerant of sexual indiscretion than it was even 20 years ago. V/R, Danny |
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I agree. Like I said in my previous post, he's so far the least terrible of the candidates. (Yang isn't terrible, but not great). I really think it's probably to his boon that he's gay. People like to vote for the first of things. First Gay President. First African American President. First succubus spawn of the ninth circle of hell. Oh wait, Hillary's not running...
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My nephew is gay. We knew from the time he was about six (if not much earlier) that was how he’d turn out. My Bro and SIL as well as the rest of the family love him to death regardless. Of course... he’s a 17yr old thespian now. Cliche but true. When he hit puberty, he asked my Bro about it and he flat out said he’d know. You’re either going to be attracted to guys or girls. You have to know and trust your gut, and if you’re getting a chubby and daydreaming about another boy... that’s a good indicator. As my brother said... he wanted a boy and girl but got two girls. We all give him a ton of shit with much love. “Lighten up Nancy.” “Stop prancing around like a Kansas City faggot (Blazing Saddles).” His sister / my niece and my daughter bust on him the hardest - all grew up together. Our philosophy... we will always love you but we are going to bust on you hard; however, whatever you experience in public will pale in comparison to the ribbing we give you and you’ll have thick skin to boot. Plus, we taught him how to fight. Great kid. And... IMHO... some just come out of the womb that way. Ymmv.... P.S. Alexander the Great... etc. There have been a few leaders and maybe even a few Presidents who were gay but weren’t open about it. If you’re a pro 2nd Amend, conservative, Vet gay dude... versus a leftist. You’ll get my vote. P.P.S. Hate Box’s post above, but I’m hoping (not a strategy) that the silent majority come out and re-elect the POTUS and offset the major voter fraud - ballot harvesting... etc., to come.
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The reality. Morality, ones actions, does matter with our leaders. Especially our President. The President is not just some city planner or project manager or a CFO of a corporation. He is the figure head of our nation. He is our primary diplomat. He is a role model for our youth. At least he is suppose to be those things. So yes, not just his governance, his policies that matter but also how he conducts himself.
Morality and Character do matter, that is what marks a man. A person's sexual behavior is a mark of one's character. A person choses what type of activities to take part in, what lifestyle to live, what type of relationships to have. Now did Trump have indescretions or say some unsavory things in the past? Yes. I have also. But what is one doing today? If Trump was bringing porn stars into the Oval Office, banging interns unapologetically, habitually cheating on The First Lady I would lose all support for him as well. When we as a nation no longer have a standard, an ideal, we have lost. When complacent sets in. Money, the economy is not everything. Don't sell out your values. Don't be a nation that turns a blind eye as long as there are Bread and Circuses. With lack of morality, thus then all the vices are amplified that lead to all are other rights, liberties and freedoms slowly being taken away. Morally weak men, become weak men, lacking of honor and thus lead other men down the same path.
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Morality and character aren't tied to sexual preference. My values don't conflate them, and never have.
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I had a gay boss. As long as he signed my check..IDGAF. I have a buddy who has a gay dog. Seriously. He's a cool dog. He just likes fucking other dogs in the ass. I just cant see myself voting for a gay President. The elections are a long way off still. But it's going to be in the news for a long time. I dont see anything changing in 2020 except some cabinet positions. |
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If you listen to his interview with Ben Shapiro, he is the one that I think has more of a chance, although the left has no issue smearing an Asian, unless of course he is a victim.
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Why most all religions and cultures understand this and put contraints on what is acceptable, and frown upon those that stray outside the norms of traditional.
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He is an interesting concept, and will be interesting to see how far he goes since he is a political outsider. He seems to be more focused on outcome based ideology than just pure leftist ideology.
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I think his Achilles Heel is his thought that people will act like grown ups instead of "Leftists"
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Same thing most Cambodians thought when the Khmer Rouge rolled into Phnom Penh in 1975. Everyone waving flags and cheering them on. The Khmer Rouge proclaiming they would be just. Never, never ever, trust the left.
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I think it is all just wonderful.
Look at this vast field of competitors democrat AND republican lining up to challenge the reality-TV/real estate mogul POTUS. america is in great shape.
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On a side note, I just saw a report that projects Hispanics to be a larger voting block than blacks next year. |
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Some of the most staunchest anti-abortion and pro traditional family people I know of in my areas are in their early 20s. To my observations of the late teens/20s crowd it seems a 50/50 divide. No more middle ground. Half going to the far right, almost, and half going far left.
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IMO the difference is, that it's YOUR morality and not the Mayor's. That may seem like an easy call saying he's immoral by his proclivity. If so, it's also an easy call saying you're projecting your morals onto him. I kinda look at morals this way. What I find moral or not in myself is mine alone. What my community thinks is moral is a way they expect me to behave within their group. Obviously the last varies from community to community across this great nation (dry counties in KY?). If he were conservative and we liked his message, would we really want to cast him aside? Perhaps more importantly how many good gay Constitution defending Americans would I alienate by doing so? I personally don't think I have room to cast potential friends aside.
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I hear what you are saying. Then well though that then see is what gets into of course of who's beliefs are right? Where as if there are no absolutes, no standard - then you have no standard at all and anything goes. For a society to function properly, there needs to be set standards. This is what keeps people in check, creates strong families, strong communities. Having social constricts on certain behaviours. We fall into the trap of "your ok, I'm ok" progressive relativism where there ultimately is no right or wrong. We also have to be careful with who we make allies with, in terms of "the enemy of my enemy" is my friend, as sometimes that can come back and bite us in the ass as history has shown. Sometimes overlooking ideals, to compromise, does not end well in the long run. Does this mean we outlaw gays and thrown them in jail? No. Do what you want in private. But when you start promoting it in public, having pride parades, teaching acceptance in elementary schools, forcing others to accept (and trying to ruin their business, livelihood if they don't), legally redefine the tradition of marriage and force all to facilitate, forcing the military to accommodate, or want to represent our nation/be our leader as you flaunt the homosexual lifestyle - that is where the objections are.
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