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Old 8 November 2018, 10:33
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Norwegian Frigate

Hard to imagine how light damage caused the Frigate to possibly sink.
I would think a ship like this would have advanced water tight holds to prevent this.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46136564

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Old 8 November 2018, 10:34
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Old 8 November 2018, 10:42
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The BBC video shows it higher in the water and not yet rolled over -- and then start to go. Flooding got ahead of ability of the crew or damage control parties to secure the hatches?
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Old 8 November 2018, 10:48
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If the impact was at speed, all the inertia probably shifted a whole shed-load of internal materials, as well as started seams and welds. And with modern crewing, and peacetime routines, damage control is pretty much a lost cause, if they even bothered. It seems they're trying to ground it, which I bet won't work in steep sided fjords, and I expect a CF.

It's pretty pathetic as this is a 5300 ton ship, this is a major warship.

In similar news, the Russian's Admiral Kuznetzov aircraft carrier was significantly damaged when it's dry dock sank and a crane toppled and punched a hole in the ship.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...yard-accident/

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Musta been extensive damage otherwise.

Lots of lower holds do not have *hatches* per se. They have bolted down water tight plates. Those areas are F'n huge. Huge!

ETA: Huge= 20+ foot ceilings, and park two rows of 8 Escalades side by side.
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Old 8 November 2018, 11:22
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You can see if this picture how the side was gashed in. If it flooded the engineering spaces, they're just SOL. Down on power and massive compartments flooded. They're supposed to have it grounded successfully, and it was hit by the tanker, while the tanker was under tow. Strange. S/F....Ken M
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wow, that is a gash. No light damage there.
How do you Ground it without causing more damage?
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IDK, but it's better than letting it sink. Salt water wrecks everything. S/F...Ken M
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Old 8 November 2018, 12:31
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E5M has a direct line to DC Central on this one...Engineering space gashes suck a root, and looks like this impact could not have been scripted better. Looks like it took out aft steering as well.
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Old 8 November 2018, 15:00
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I would think a ship like this would have advanced water tight holds to prevent this.
One other thing - Frigates are essentially meant as lighter, smaller ships with less redundancy. Whereas a Destroyer or Cruiser will have two separate engineering plants, the frigate has one. They're cheaper, so you can built more of them; which is the trade off.
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This is what happens when you quit using steel armor plate at the water line and only use cheap aluminum hulls and superstructures......
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Old 8 November 2018, 18:15
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From what I'm seeing it looks like the Frigate got T-boned.

Is that about right? If not, from what angle? I've only been on Navy vessel but 1 time.

I do have a 32 y/o bass boat though.
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Hard to imagine how light damage caused the Frigate to possibly sink.
I would think a ship like this would have advanced water tight holds to prevent this.
Could the light have been too bright or the wrong wavelength and that caused the damage?
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Silly people...it's not sunk...just sleeping.
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hmmm...

...that pic has me humming a certain Gordon Lightfoot tune...
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Old 8 November 2018, 19:49
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Uhmm Sir. I must report. We have officially invaded Norway.
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It's not sunk. It's just pining for the fjords.
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Could the light have been too bright or the wrong wavelength and that caused the damage?
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Old 9 November 2018, 08:34
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It now identifies as a submarine.
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