SOCNET

Go Back   SOCNET: The Special Operations Community Network > General Topics > The Lounge > Travel

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 25 December 2019, 14:48
HighDragLowSpeed's Avatar
HighDragLowSpeed HighDragLowSpeed is offline
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Only Place For Me
Posts: 5,620
RFI Paris

Will be there for a week for a family member's birthday with no plans other than the Louvre, Eiffel Tower, and Arc de Triumphe. First time for me there.

Any suggestions or other must sees?

Where have socnet members stayed (on their own dime please) that they liked ? Is there a preferred neighborhood/area to stay? While I found tickets for around $300 round trip and would like to find a good deal on a hotel, I don't want to go super cheap on the hotel just to spend a fortune on Uber and sit in traffic to see the sites.

No plans on renting a car. I might consider it if it's the only way to make a day trip to Normandy feasible.

Thoughts?
__________________
Come for the infosec, stay for the dumpster fires.

God made machine language; all the rest is the work of man.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 25 December 2019, 16:07
Hot Mess's Avatar
Hot Mess Hot Mess is offline
In Vino Veritas
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Where you vacation
Posts: 11,819
Quote:
Originally Posted by HighDragLowSpeed View Post
Will be there for a week for a family member's birthday with no plans other than the Louvre, Eiffel Tower, and Arc de Triumphe. First time for me there.

Any suggestions or other must sees?

Where have socnet members stayed (on their own dime please) that they liked ? Is there a preferred neighborhood/area to stay? While I found tickets for around $300 round trip and would like to find a good deal on a hotel, I don't want to go super cheap on the hotel just to spend a fortune on Uber and sit in traffic to see the sites.

No plans on renting a car. I might consider it if it's the only way to make a day trip to Normandy feasible.

Thoughts?
I’ve passed through a few times, but never stayed long, so I’m not much help. I want to say Normandy is 3.5 hrs from Paris. The tolls will kill you. I drove from Stuttgart to Normandy to jump into D-Day and the tolls were over $100€ one way. Granted I had to get into and leave Paris.

Somewhat useful tidbit: I did language immersion for SF in Montpellier, where everyone was great, but they freakin’ hate Parisians. The consensus was they’re just assholes. That’s not a stereotype, they really are, so enjoy
__________________
Come on boys, you got to do it right, pray to the moon in the middle of the night
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 25 December 2019, 16:10
Maverick's Avatar
Maverick Maverick is offline
Authorized Personnel
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,905
Versailles was spectacular. The Louvre is gorgeous, but a major pain in the ass. Arc de Triumphe area has been a hot spot for protests for awhile, so just keep that in mind. Don't rent a car, and don't waste your money on Uber unless you need to. The metro system there is easy to figure out, but metro workers have been striking recently, so depending on when you're going, operations may be degraded.

In regards to accommodations, what's your budget and how many people? The rooms are usually pretty small. Last time I was there I stayed at the Renaissance Republique, and I had no issues. I've also gone and rented an apartment there for a couple of weeks. Just depends on what you want and what your definition of a good deal is.
__________________
"Improving team morale, one compliment at a time."

Safety is binary - Security is emotional
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 25 December 2019, 16:54
Fred's Avatar
Fred Fred is offline
ditch digger
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: TBD
Posts: 703
Musée de l'Armée is pretty awesome, will be an hour or so well spent.
__________________
teams
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 25 December 2019, 17:40
Dark Helmet's Avatar
Dark Helmet Dark Helmet is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 11,333
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred View Post
Musée de l'Armée is pretty awesome, will be an hour or so well spent.
If you only visit one thing in Paris, this should be it. One of the best military museums I have ever been in, period.

Those French sure do museums right.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
Versailles was spectacular.
This would be my #2. It is actually a bit out of Paris proper, and will be a day trip if you do it....well worth it.

I would also put Notre Dame at the top of the list, but I am Catholic and thus biased. Not sure about access since the fire.
__________________
All Hail the Helmet!

SGT A/1/75 86-89
Ranger Class 13-87

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my children will have peace." - Thomas Paine
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 26 December 2019, 04:55
DSSRonin's Avatar
DSSRonin DSSRonin is offline
Authorized Personnel
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Fragrant Harbor
Posts: 1,337
Wife and I stayed here numerous times;
https://www.hotel-elyseesmermoz.com/en/

A bit quirky but in a good location between Arc de Triomphe (1 mile) and the Louvre (1.5 miles) in the 8th District.

X2 on the Musee de l'Armee.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 26 December 2019, 09:10
GirlwithaGlock's Avatar
GirlwithaGlock GirlwithaGlock is offline
Russian Tycoon
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ghost Ranch
Posts: 3,708
I go to Paris quite frequently... one of the hotels that is not super expensive but has a character is Hotel Le Sénat in Saint Germain. It is close to Luxembourg Gardens and Panthéon. (www.hotelsenat.com) Given the location, I would say it is very reasonably priced.

I will post a list of my favorites later today.
__________________
Dodge This!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 26 December 2019, 10:17
Steve40th Steve40th is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
Posts: 1,685
My wife and Daughter stayed here on a trip there in 2016. Then they went to my cousins vineyard in SE of France. Hotel was very accommodating, you were within walking distance of many touristy things. Staff was great, got to pick room based off theme.
https://www.lebellechasse.com/
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 26 December 2019, 15:29
Kip Kip is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,496
Agree on Versailles. Absolutely incredible.

You might be sick of art after spending time at the Lourve, but the Musee d'Orsay is worth seeing. It's in a former railway station that is really nice.

Normandy is awesome if you can swing it. The Caen Memorial Museum is outstanding, and my parents and I did a tour with Overlodtour that was outstanding. We met them in Bayeaux, but it looks like they will meet you in Paris, too. Looking at their site, I think we did the full-day tour of Omaha Beach and Utah Beach.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 28 December 2019, 15:56
GirlwithaGlock's Avatar
GirlwithaGlock GirlwithaGlock is offline
Russian Tycoon
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ghost Ranch
Posts: 3,708
Here are a couple of my favorites that have not been mentioned in this thread:

- Something old: Musée de Cluny - amazing collection of medieval art.

- Something new: Atelier des Lumières - one of the best immersive art shows I have ever seen. Book tickets in advance.

- I love walking around Montmartre, even though it is always crowded. The panoramic view of the city is beautiful, there are a few smaller museums, including one of Salvador Dali.

- Side-trip: time and weather permitting, you ought to check out Giverny, home of Claude Monet and the famous water lilies pond. The village itself is very quaint and the gardens are spectacular, especially in spring.

- In case you would like to see another chateau besides Versailles, I suggest Fontainebleau or Château de Chantilly.

- Shopping: Printemps and Galeries Lafayette are worth visiting even if you do not buy anything. They are located right next to each other and have a very impressive selection of designer brands; plus, Galeries Lafayette boasts a magnificent art nouveau dome. Otherwise, the Marais District has tons of cute boutiques. If you pass through Marais, stop by Rue des Rosiers (the old Jewish quarter), do yourself a favor and have some falafel from one of their stands... best street food ever.

Do not attempt to travel to Omaha Beach by public transportation. It is complicated, even in peak season, and you will waste a lot of time. I have used Viator to book excursions to avoid renting a car and was very happy with most tour operators.

Getting around Paris on Metro is easy. I recommend using Citymapper to plan your trips, it works exceptionally well. You can buy books of metro tickets from the kiosks, so it is a little cheaper and you do not need to worry about it before every ride.

Once you pick the hotel, I can help you figuring out the easiest way to get there on public transportation, if you want to save money on the taxi (it is expensive).

Happy to throw additional suggestions, as you go along.
__________________
Dodge This!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 2 January 2020, 20:15
GirlwithaGlock's Avatar
GirlwithaGlock GirlwithaGlock is offline
Russian Tycoon
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ghost Ranch
Posts: 3,708
More random stuff:

- If you decide to go to Louvre, do yourself a favor and book your ticket online, well in advance. Otherwise you will be waiting for hours or may not get in at all. Given that your time in Paris is somewhat limited and there is a lot to see, I would actually recommend D'Orsay, as Louvre can be quite overwhelming. As mentioned earlier, the building by itself is quite remarkable and it has one of the best collections of the Impressionist artists in the world.

- Since you are going to miss out on Notre Dame (tears!), maybe you could check out Sainte Chapelle, the royal chapel built in the XIII century. It is a real jewel of Gothic architecture with beautiful stained windows. The Chapel is not that big, so it will not take a lot of time out of your day.

- Across from Notre Dame there is the cult Shakespeare and Company bookstore. Consider it a WeWork spot of the Lost Generation writers (Hemingway and Fitzgerald used to hang out there), as well as other modernist artists. Since you are likely to pass by it, it is worth taking a peak.

- Speaking of legendary places, Les Deux Magots on Saint-Germain des Prés is a restaurant that used to be a hub of Parisian cultural life... its patrons included Camus, James Joyce, Simone de Beauvoir, Picasso, etc. It will not be the best meal of your trip (the food is only alright), but there is some special vibe that I can't explain in this place.

- For a romantic walk that is not along the Seine, I suggest Canal Saint Martin. You will recognize it, if you saw Amelie.
__________________
Dodge This!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 2 January 2020, 20:49
CV's Avatar
CV CV is offline
Authorized Personnel
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: US
Posts: 8,527
Add another +1 for Musée de l'Armée.
__________________
It's a hipster filter. Keeps your kind out. -Jimbo
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 3 January 2020, 00:54
hawkdrver's Avatar
hawkdrver hawkdrver is offline
Red Headed Stepchild
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: AK
Posts: 3,583
Catacombs.

Also:

My absolute favorite thing to do there is find a sidewalk cafe and watch the people go by over a glass of wine and some stinky cheese. Regardless of season.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 4 January 2020, 21:32
Kip Kip is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,496
Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkdrver View Post
Catacombs.
Don't know if it's possible(I'm sure it is), but book your tickets in advance for this.

My parents and I didn't do the catacombs, but we ended up near the entrance one day and the line to get tickets was long af, and this was during the off season.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 5 January 2020, 01:35
hawkdrver's Avatar
hawkdrver hawkdrver is offline
Red Headed Stepchild
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: AK
Posts: 3,583
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kip View Post
the line to get tickets was long af
That's been true lately.

Still worth it.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 6 January 2020, 08:38
A21 A21 is offline
BTDT
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Lorraine American Cem.
Posts: 896
Just another line of shit from another person who has lived near Paris.

Go once and get it out of your system. The people outside of Paris are much nicer than inside Paris. I have to go there once a year for work and leave as soon as the meeting is over. Even the French who live outside of Paris hate the place.

Musee d'Orsay is my first choice outside of the military museums. There are more than one. If you go to Normandy American Cemetery also try to visit another one. Remember the war did not end on June 7th.

Be prepared for any strikes or public discourse. It happens all the time.
__________________
Serving 10484 of my Hero’s.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 15 February 2020, 10:57
HighDragLowSpeed's Avatar
HighDragLowSpeed HighDragLowSpeed is offline
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Only Place For Me
Posts: 5,620
Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlwithaGlock View Post
Once you pick the hotel, I can help you figuring out the easiest way to get there on public transportation, if you want to save money on the taxi (it is expensive).
My wife doesn't know yet that we have a place with a balcony that looks out over Eiffel tower for five nights. Saving that surprise for arrival. This is something of a bucket list item for the wife and it worked out to be just a few dollars above what I would have paid for a room farther away. Plus, the overall cost was offset by fairly inexpensive airfare ($350 RT each).

Also took advantage of the refundable hotel option just in case the corona virus becomes a travel issue.

Thank you to everyone that suggested sites to see. Now that we have a hotel selected, I'll work on an agenda for the five nights that we'll be in Paris.

We'll alo have availability for a two day one night trip out to Normandy. I'll work to get that set up next as well as a cheap last night at some hotel close to the airport.
__________________
Come for the infosec, stay for the dumpster fires.

God made machine language; all the rest is the work of man.

Last edited by HighDragLowSpeed; 15 February 2020 at 11:14.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 15 February 2020, 14:04
Seanmcd82's Avatar
Seanmcd82 Seanmcd82 is offline
Embrace the Suck
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: On the Beach
Posts: 2,934
If you can try to book a dinner cruise on the river, they leave from just next to the Eiffel Tower, well worth it to see the sights at night and have a great meal. The Eiffel Tower lights up at night and the view from the river is great.

Also if your wife is into shows or anything like that try to get tickets to either the Moulin Rouge or something similar like The Lido, really great shows and well, the women are nearly naked, how can you go wrong? Even the kids loved it, well worth the money.

Other than that the Arc de Triumph is pretty cool, Versailles, and if you get away from Paris I would recommend a small town South called Amboise, my all time favorite France destination. Paris really is so touristy it's painful but you have to check the boxes, after that get away into France that's where anything worth seeing really is, IMHO.

DON'T rent a car unless you want to get away from Paris, it's a nightmare. Use cabs or uber, just remember when it rains you will wait for a cab for an hour or more, leave plenty of time to get around with shitty weather.
__________________
It's never the Jump that hurts, it's always when you hit the ground
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 15 February 2020, 16:32
Rockville Rockville is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: VA
Posts: 1,177
watch Mona Lisa's eyes following you when you walk in a horseshoe....

[QUOTE=GirlwithaGlock;1058835032]More random stuff:

- If you decide to go to Louvre, do yourself a favor and book your ticket online, well in advance. Otherwise you will be waiting for hours or may not get in at all. Given that your time in Paris is somewhat limited and there is a lot to see, I would actually recommend D'Orsay, as Louvre can be quite overwhelming. As mentioned earlier, the building by itself is quite remarkable and it has one of the best collections of the Impressionist artists in the world.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 15 February 2020, 18:18
Dark Helmet's Avatar
Dark Helmet Dark Helmet is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 11,333
Quote:
Originally Posted by HighDragLowSpeed View Post
My wife....
You got married? To a woman?
__________________
All Hail the Helmet!

SGT A/1/75 86-89
Ranger Class 13-87

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my children will have peace." - Thomas Paine
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Our new posting rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:01.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Socnet.com All Rights Reserved
© SOCNET 1996-2018