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Old 30 September 2019, 09:59
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I would like to add that is seems the biggest threat to POTUS is the intelligence community(not all but a select few higher ups) . How and why was the whistleblower policy change just in time for the phone call to be released. What part did Schiff play and who are/ is the person/ people in POTUS inner circle talking ? Still seems to be part of the swamp fighting for survival.
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Old 30 September 2019, 10:07
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Dude, how did you survive the military? Seriously, not trying to be snarky. You wasted a lot of your valuable time complaining that an individual who happens to be the POTUS, who did nothing more than give what he got when he got attacked. The left loved DJT before he became a politician. All you did with your post is show that the left is nothing more than a group of sheeple that can only think and ponder whatever they are told to ponder.

You seem to forget that it wasn't too long ago that you could walk into the White House, and that the President was truly supposed to be "of the people". The guy talks like he's one of the people. And had you don't any due diligence, you would know that he's actually quite a personable human being that does actually give a shit about people. He's done more charity work than most wealthy people, without and fanfare.

Everything he's been accused of has been nothing more than projections of the people who've actually done what they accusing him of doing. Don't you see anything wrong with that? Your question at the end of your magnum opus seems to be some sort of attempt at trying to peacock what you perceive to be a powerful post. It's not.

How you can risk being afflicted with cognitive dissonance via ignoring just how much this President has accomplished in 2+ years is simply fascinating. Like him or not, the guy is not beholden to anyone. And THAT is what "the establishment" cannot have. Because if he cannot be controlled, he can begin to open the eyes of the sheeple like you, who's thoughts are nothing more than "establishment" programming.
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Old 30 September 2019, 10:19
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This whole whistle blower fiasco is a dumpster fire. The latest 60 minutes totally lied about the whistle blower being in federal protection because they fear for their safety. Further attempting to push the narrative and lend credibility to the lies. The whistle blowers attorney is the one who sent a message to 60 minutes literately accusing them of making things up. The media is totally out of control.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whi...ted-key-letter
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Old 30 September 2019, 10:33
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On second thought - maybe we should all reconsider what we know as truth. We are at war with Eastasia - we have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia.

-Donald Trump has ALWAYS been a republican. Democrats have ALWAYS hated Trump.
-The Clintons have NEVER been involved in a scandal
-There was NEVER a scandal while Obama was in office
-Who in the hell is Jefferey Epstein



... it is all just sabotage! The agents of Goldstein have been hard at at work again!
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Old 30 September 2019, 10:35
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I used to think the 1984 references were kind of funny. Now it gives me goosebumps when somebody does it. It's not very funny anymore.
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Old 30 September 2019, 10:40
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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1...907225099?s=21

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Joe Biden's campaign wrote to executives at ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and Fox News to “demand” that Rudy Giuliani not be invited on the air to discuss Ukraine and President Trump because of what they called his misleading comments about the Biden family
Someone is scared.
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Old 30 September 2019, 11:42
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I used to think the 1984 references were kind of funny. Now it gives me goosebumps when somebody does it. It's not very funny anymore.
I'm in the same boat -- So I re-read 1984 a couple years ago to make sure I was remembering it right. 'Government as Religion' is what I took out of it this time. And that made the headlines, and the scandals, and the talking points even more like the book....like everyone is going crazy together, but they don't know it....and the few that aren't crazy are deemed a threat.
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Old 30 September 2019, 11:49
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That twit got pulled.
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Old 30 September 2019, 11:54
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'Government as Religion' is what I took out of it this time
I find that sickness on both sides of the aisle.

People are religious whether they're deist or atheist. But "Government as Religion" (or Politics as religion) almost always leads to wretched outcomes because it ties great tangible power to unproven ideologies.
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Old 30 September 2019, 12:23
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Read "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley


We are getting close to that reality as well
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Old 30 September 2019, 12:28
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That twit got pulled.
I see what you did there... nice
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Old 30 September 2019, 12:59
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Read "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley


We are getting close to that reality as well
I read that about 10 years ago and thought it was too fantastic (not great, but based in fantasy) to ever happen. The current effort to sexualize children, genetic engineering available through CRISPR, and the race to drug the populace -- it feels like Huxley might have been a secular prophet.

And that doesn't even consider the astoundingly fast advances in AI and robotics.
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Old 30 September 2019, 13:15
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Huxley, Orwell, Bradbury - all prophets.
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Old 30 September 2019, 14:01
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Huxley, Orwell, Bradbury - all prophets.
Glad I read Aninal Farm when I was a kid. Need to reread those authors as it has been a long time.
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Old 30 September 2019, 14:46
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None of you sees anything wrong with any of this, at all?
Read through this thread.

If you really want your question answered read through this thread.

https://www.socnet.com/showthread.ph...blican+Primary

You'll find that many of the BTDTs on this board came to support Trump as a candidate in fits and starts.

Very few were full blown, hardcore Trump supporters from the word go.

I remember that well because I was sending the Trump campaign $$$ while many BTDTs whose opinions I respect were lukewarm to the idea of a Trump presidency at best, leading to me, at times, questioning my support for his campaign.

But over the course of the several hundred pages of that thread, as folks around here weighed him as a candidate, measured him against the rest of the Republican field, debated his policy positions as well as his chronic case of foot-in-mouth disease, and compared him to a presumptive candidate HRC, you'll see that support developed over time.

Also consider that a presidential election is a zero sum game. We don't get to choose who runs and we don't get to choose who drops out along the way. The best any of us can do, more often than not, is pick the least worst option with the understanding that whoever we choose also has to be able to beat the other guy in a general election.

I guess I say all that to say that for many of the members of this site the decision to move in to the Trump "camp" was a slow, deliberative process that ebbed and flowed over the course of several months.

It wasn't like the zookeeper unlocked the asylum doors and all the lunatics came racing out under the Trump tent screaming like thoughtless idiots and waving their arms in the air.
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Old 30 September 2019, 16:46
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Huxley, Orwell, Bradbury - all prophets.
Watership Down was in the same vein of anti-totalitarianism.
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Old 30 September 2019, 17:36
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Yes, Watership Down. And the short story 'Harrison Bergerond.'
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Old 30 September 2019, 17:38
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Fahrenheit 451 has many implications as well.
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Old 30 September 2019, 17:45
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I used to think the 1984 references were kind of funny. Now it gives me goosebumps when somebody does it. It's not very funny anymore.
One thing I find very connecting between 1984 and today is how "The Party" treats the proles.

In 1984, 85% of the population are unworthy of the consideration of either the inner or outer party, but are instead fed pornography, cheap gin, and shitty music to keep them satiated and quiet.

In 2019 it's more like 95%...
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Yes, Watership Down. And the short story 'Harrison Bergeron.'
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Old 30 September 2019, 18:17
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George Orwell on George Orwell

FWIW, from Orwell's essay "Why I Write" (1946) <<LINK>>

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Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it.
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