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Old 17 February 2017, 00:05
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Now I'm glad I was a leg in Ranger School.
You were what?
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Old 17 February 2017, 00:31
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Worst no-drop

I just got to Group and almost everyone was in one of those regularly scheduled exercises (1983 Ocean Venture?). Anyway we fly down to Hunter in 5 C130s to pick everyone up and we were going to do a MA back into Bragg. It was a semi-rough flight down as there was a strong front hitting.

On the way back to Bragg things got real interesting. It was a terrain flight back. In strong winds. Gusting.

Everybody on my plane was puking. I don't know about the crew in the cabin but everyone in the rear was. The trash cans were overflowing with puke and puke bags. The floor was covered in puke and bags. We ran out of the bags and were just letting it flow on the floor. The loads opened the troop doors and were puking out of them trying to get some fresh air.

Everyone wanted out of that plane and right now.

Well we got to Bragg and the planes pop up to the jump altitude. The storm did not cooperate. The winds were so high that they stirred up the NC sand and dust so much we couldn't even see the tree tops.

We landed at Pope to discover all 5 of the C130s were full of puke, the same as ours. Boots, uniforms, and all the gear were covered in the puke.
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Old 17 February 2017, 03:09
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Maybe this should go in the Really Bad Airplane Rides thread?

Seriously though, there is something about that first guy to poke that sets off the chain reaction. Like yawning, once someone does it, it's contagious.
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Old 17 February 2017, 03:48
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Grenada 1983. I am a snot nosed PV2. We get told to de-rig after inflight rigging then, about 6 minutes out told to rig back up. I throw all my shit on in time to hook up with no JMPI. Exit the aircraft and realize how close the ground seems. I hit like a ton of bricks (really) dead center of the runway. Sharp pain up left leg. I thought I broke it. I'm stamping on it in the middle of the runway to see if it really was broken and everything seems allright. I link up with some other joe's and off we go. Fast forward. We return to HAAF. All is good. I wake up the first morning after return and my left foot is swollen all over. I get a friend to take me to the clinic. They xray it and, yep, the calcaneus (heel bone) is fractured. 8 weeks in a cast.
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Old 17 February 2017, 14:41
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Maybe this should go in the Really Bad Airplane Rides thread?

Seriously though, there is something about that first guy to poke that sets off the chain reaction. Like yawning, once someone does it, it's contagious.

Very much so. I was an RI in the Mtns in the early 90's. They were moving things around. We were the 2nd phase, then 3rd. Then back to 2nd when the God's chose to do away with the desert phase. We would fly or jump into Ft. Bliss, pickup the students and fly or jump again in Ft. Benning and bus them to the mtns. We lost a lot of a/c due to real world stuff going on in Bosnia.

One of those trips coming back to Ft. Benning we flew low level it seemed like over the entire state of Alabama. The students were rigged up. My Co. Cmdr. was a JM, but we all were skeptical because he became air sick very easily. I was a safety and was helping him rig up. The big dip of Copenhagen in my mouth was just enough to put him over the top. He was puking. Students were puking. To make it worse, as mentioned in an earlier post...some stud shit his pants. We had to totally switch things around at the last minute. I became JM. Had to find a new safety. The Co. Cmdr. Sat down & strapped in. He was useless. I'm glad I ended up jumping and not the ALS. The a/c was a fucking mess.
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Old 18 February 2017, 21:06
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OJC, 20 Dec 89 at Rio Hato. I forget the Ranger's name - but remember this event. From Craig Keller's account:

One Ranger that did not get treated with dignity for his injury was a new squad
leader assigned to the platoon whose name I cannot remember or find, to save my life.
The poor guy was shot in the aircraft, and no one had realized that he had been shot.
He was new to the platoon; he had been assigned from an outside unit (a rare thing in
those days) and had just made the MOD 4 exercise. On the final approach to the jump,
a round came through the aircraft and into his leg and back. As he collapsed in the floor
of the aircraft, SGT Nedabomer and PFC Hayes were under the impression that he was a jump refusal. They kicked and cursed him as they executed the procedures for
moving around/over a wounded or dead jumper in the stick. We did not put the safety
wire through the snap hook for just this contingency. They unhooked, stepped over
him, and re-hooked to the anchor line cable and exited the aircraft. We didn't find out
until later that he had been shot. I had heard later that they pinned his wings on him at
the hospital for the combat jump, but then rescinded his wings for not getting out of the
aircraft.
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Old 19 February 2017, 00:46
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OJC, 20 Dec 89 at Rio Hato. I forget the Ranger's name - but remember this event. From Craig Keller's account:

One Ranger that did not get treated with dignity for his injury was a new squad
leader assigned to the platoon whose name I cannot remember or find, to save my life.
The poor guy was shot in the aircraft, and no one had realized that he had been shot.
He was new to the platoon; he had been assigned from an outside unit (a rare thing in
those days) and had just made the MOD 4 exercise. On the final approach to the jump,
a round came through the aircraft and into his leg and back. As he collapsed in the floor
of the aircraft, SGT Nedabomer and PFC Hayes were under the impression that he was a jump refusal. They kicked and cursed him as they executed the procedures for
moving around/over a wounded or dead jumper in the stick. We did not put the safety
wire through the snap hook for just this contingency. They unhooked, stepped over
him, and re-hooked to the anchor line cable and exited the aircraft. We didn't find out
until later that he had been shot. I had heard later that they pinned his wings on him at
the hospital for the combat jump, but then rescinded his wings for not getting out of the
aircraft.
I was at rigger school with a guy who was on that bird, told me this story.
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Old 19 February 2017, 01:23
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I didn't personally have any 'terrible' jumps. A few close calls, I guess. Missed the DZ in Puerto Rico and landed in a corral with a bull in it. Had a newbie LT land on my canopy in Panama as my feet hit the ground. Jumping into Wainwright with full arctic (training) combat load (RTO) we did so many racetracks I thought my spine was going to shoot out of my back.

I don't know why I didn't make the infamous high-wind night jump on Lewis where so many got hurt, including Birch breaking his back. That's a legendary jump.

Worst jump, and not mine, was in RIP. We were jumping Hueys. Back then they did what I recall was called 'chute orientation day.' 5 jumps, the first 5 after jump school, of course. I was in a short line getting ready to be JMPI'd. Hueys racetracking up. I finally get up to the JM (a newly- assigned-to-RIP VN combat SF medic, E7, I think.) I have my hands on my head and I'm being checked out, the JM's back is to the LZ, I'm watching the proceedings....

One guy slips across another's canopy, loses his air, falls and grabs the lower guy's chute. Now both are collapsed and they stream in from what I remember as 80 feet. I'm like, "Uh, Sergeant..." and pointing. I think he turned around in time to see the impact. I remember hearing it. He grabbed his aid bag and was out there. One of the guys was named Nugent, CRS the other. Both survived. Nugent was in Madigan for a long time.

Now, after 30-plus years, this is the part I find hard to believe--in my mind they cleared the DZ and the rest of us finished out our 5 jumps for the day. I don't remember any trepidation on the part of any of us to keep on keepin' on. Young, dumb and full of cum doesn't seem to sum it up....
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Old 19 February 2017, 01:33
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OJC, 20 Dec 89 at Rio Hato. I forget the Ranger's name - but remember this event. From Craig Keller's account:
FKL, I found this 24 page personal AAR written by Keller.

http://www.benning.army.mil/library/content/virtual/donovanpapers/other/STUP5/KellerCraig%201LT.pdf

Back to my lane.............
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Old 19 February 2017, 19:28
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"but then rescinded his wings for not getting out of the
aircraft. "

The rest of the story;

I remember the WAD saying in Panama that OJC wasn't going to turn into another Grenada when it came to awards. After we got back, CSM LG and the Bn CSMs reviewed everything (including a couple of PHs that were awarded at BAMC to 3/75 lads who suffered non enemy fire gunshot wounds screwing around with an M=9) especially the awards that were given out at BAMC including the mustard stain on the above Ranger's jump wings. His award was in fact rescinded at Regiment. A day or so later CSA's (Vuono's) aid is on the phone to the RCO telling the RCO to hold After a couple minutes wait, Gen. Vuono comes on the line and says "what are you doing taking away the wings I awarded?". RCO said the wings were rescinded because he didn't jump. Vuono said he was hooked up when he got shot and that was good enough for the Army. Bottom line: He got the wings.
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