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PocketKings 16 October 2013 12:37

Chances are he's still IRR and still holds his commission. Going back on AD should be administrative at this point. I know plenty of officers who got out as Captains, saw the civilian world as lacking, and went back on AD.

It still takes a little time to get paperwork caught up, then find a place for the guy. I don't know where he is in the schooling pipeline, or if he's branch qualified or not. All of that plays into the picture.

He'll probably end up at Benning teaching classes. Or West Point. Maybe even as an RI. He seems a bit more cerebral than most IN officers.

Sapper 16 October 2013 14:21

On MOH being not deserved....someone in the soldier's chain of command must submit a recommendation for the award. Normally this would be immediate superior (squad leader, platoon sergeant and then would have to be approved by company commander or in Swenson's case BN commander probably. Then division has to sign off and on up the line. An investigation must be performed and then it is kicked up to PERSCOM Decoration board then the senior decoration board then it goes to the branch chief of staff who has to concur, then the branch secretary, then SECDEF and then the President himself must concur before MOH is awarded. I find it really difficult to believe that all of these folks would concur if the award was not deserved. Just my opinion.

B 2/75 16 October 2013 17:36

Sapper, go back and fill out your introduction post, as directed by the welcome email, and by all of the stickies at the top of the forum.

tooslow 16 October 2013 17:52

Front page photo on today's WSJ.

CA SGT 16 October 2013 18:22

[QUOTE=Max V.;1058332127]That was my unit(1-32 INF).

Huge shift from 2006 when it was "Flashlights in the open, fire for effect".

There was one commander up there at the time we came through that wasn't afraid to expend everything on the "flashlights in the open" scenario. But truth to tell, he was retiring as I remember after that deployment, and didn't give a shit and as much said so.

SGM Caravelho was there when we came thru as well, and nearly got 10 ringed with a rocket while walking across the FOB....Hunting intensified even more after that...LOL

Hognose 17 October 2013 00:41

[QUOTE=Txchris;1058325350]Donald Zlotnik is saying on FB that Swenson doesn't deserve the MoH.

I'm not SF and am not commenting on that part of Zlotnik's history. But he sure seems to get off on tearing down other soldiers' awards for valor.
[/QUOTE]

Guys,

Chris may not be SF, but he's a good mofo. But because he's not SF, he hasn't had a previous run-in with Z-man like the rest of us. I am SF (retired) and like lots of guys on this board, including Chris, I've been to Afghanistan.

I'm not surprised to see Zlotnik insulting, demeaning and abusing recipients of valor awards. He appears to have been a one-tour-wonder in SF in 66-67 as a 1LT XO and then after a medevac time out, finished up as a CAPO (basically, supernumerary). He served in two A-camps, A-253 for a couple months and then A-443 for three more months.

He later went back with conventional forces and commanded some kind of leg company or battery, I think. If he ever served in SF again I don't know about it.

He never served with SOG, but pisses on them at every opportunity, never was in the Mike Force, but pisses on them, did not get a high valor award, but pisses on the guys who did. He has spent the last couple years asserting that Jon Cavaiani MOH was a collaborator as a POW (he wasn't, according to the guys that were there; and of course, Zlotnik was not there) and has expressed delight that Jon is ill, which is pretty ate up but it's so very typical of Zlotnik's evil, debased, degraded, self-aggrandizing and phony character.

So naturally, this great hero and arbiter of what is what in Afghanistan, where he has never been (see a pattern emerging?) wants to piss on Will Swenson and Dakota Meyer.

FUCK HIM.

Not everybody who ever passed the Q was a good human being. We had J. Keith Idema, and Donald Zlotnik, to name two. Zlotnik is a little man who can only inflate himself by attacking men he's unfit to share a paragraph with. Did I say, "Fuck him?" Indeed. With a barbwire condom.

eoddude 17 October 2013 10:35

This is the vid of the medivac from two pov's.

[url]http://www.army.mil/media/amp/?bcpid=6981683001&bcpid=2663602780001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAG_GHPw~,CI0n3-GqPXEuVndqXnXleY41AZW_D3gS&bclid=2667453862001&bctid=2682900652001[/url]

eoddude 17 October 2013 10:46

This is a "Battlescape" depiction of Capt Swenson's actions.

[url]http://www.army.mil/medalofhonor/swenson/battlescape.html#scene11[/url]


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