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Old 3 December 2009, 23:32
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So As I understand the general consensus here is that we should all bow down to a HOA because they are right and we are sheople. They are above the federal and state statues. Interesting!!!
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Old 3 December 2009, 23:38
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....and we are sheople....
Aww, look -- someone who meets the definition of melodramatic....
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Old 3 December 2009, 23:45
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Aww, look -- someone who meets the definition of melodramatic....
Patriotism is what this country is founded on!!!

"Stand for something or fall for everything" ............... your call!
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Old 3 December 2009, 23:50
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Aww, look -- someone who meets the definition of melodramatic....
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Old 4 December 2009, 11:11
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Patriotism is what this country is founded on!!!

"Stand for something or fall for everything" ............... your call!
And there it is -- I love when people do exactly what I think they will....
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Old 4 December 2009, 11:33
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I think it is a stupid ass decision by the HOA. Yeah they had their rules, etc. but if they really stopped to think about the NEGATIVE press they would have (and now are receiving) because of this issue - they might have decided to turn the other cheek. I mean, really, it's a flagpole - not a trashy trailer or some shit. According to the article the neighbors don't mind anyway. Sure the HOA is in the "legal right," but now they look like ass to a lot of people and people know about the area and this issue and many may think twice when moving somewhere in that area. Wonder what THAT will do to their precious home values.
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Old 4 December 2009, 11:50
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Easiest solution:

Allow a flagpole at the entrance to the subdivision that the MOH recipient attends to daily. Done and done.
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Old 4 December 2009, 11:55
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Sure the HOA is in the "legal right," but now they look like ass to a lot of people and people know about the area and this issue and many may think twice when moving somewhere in that area. Wonder what THAT will do to their precious home values....
I would think it would mean those home values remain intact. Which is the goal of the whole thing. If I were looking at a home in that area, this event would not deter me from purchasing there -- unless I had aspirations to put up a flagpole.

As stated previously in this thread, there are "protections" already in place regarding flying the flag on your property, including within an area covered by an HOA.

IE, there is FLORIDA. I think people might find that the HOA in this instance does have rules, so does the State of FL, and these rules did not prevent this vet from flying a flag. Some orgs are forward-thinking and looking to prevent issues from occurring -- some of the readers of this thread will state there are no issues when flying a flag. Whatever. To those with a desire to have an open mind, read that link.

I lived in Westchase when THIS issue was big news. I supported the HOA's ruling -- except when it voted to lower the fine. There is more to the issue than just putting up a sign to say you support the troops. Some people won't see that.

I'm sure that I can now have the obligatory comments about my patriotism as well. Right. 'Cause I sure as fuck haven't EVER done anything that could be termed as supporting my country....
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On one hand, I see the point of those who say "Hey, he signed a contract". I really don't think anybody should be idiotic enough to live somewhere with an HOA at all unless they want to obey all kinds of gay rules.

Then again, what if the HOA made a rule like "No African Americans shall visit said property" or "No acts of oral copulation shall be permitted within the premises"? Is that okay because he signed it? Or would everybody say that is unconstitutional. So isn't it unconstitutional to prohibit the display of an American flag? What if the flag was gigantic and said "Go fuck yourself, fuckers" on it instead of being a patriotic flag?

I don't know what to think. Easy solution is don't live where there is an HOA.
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OK, last post in this thread tonight - sorry, I am a dirt lawyer at heart....

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I would think it would mean those home values remain intact. Which is the goal of the whole thing.
Agreed. That is the goal.


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I really don't think anybody should be idiotic enough to live somewhere with an HOA at all unless they want to obey all kinds of gay rules.
LOL. Yep, don't purchase or rent in a deed restricted community if you don't like the rules.
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Old 6 December 2009, 14:37
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So As I understand the general consensus here is that we should all bow down to a HOA because they are right and we are sheople. They are above the federal and state statues. Interesting!!!
No. The consensus is that you should follow rules that you voluntarily agreed to follow. Its called a contract.
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