Former Capt. Swenson will be awarded MOH

[Txchris]

Donald Zlotnik is saying on FB that Swenson doesn't deserve the MoH.

https://www.********.com/donald.zlotnik?fref=ts

Donald Zlotnik: "Interesting--last night they had a special report on the evening news showing a video where Captain Swenson helped his wounded sergeant to a chopper and then kissed him on the forehead before leaving. The news reporter stated this was a show of extreme bravery under FIRE. Yet, none of the soldiers in the background were firing or even ducking down. They were standing there watching--obviously part of the rescue TEAM that arrived AFTER the Taliban left! I also found it interesting the two medics on the chopper had helmet cameras. Why? We were told the sergeant had his juggler vein severed and was suffering from a severe neck wound--yet-he WALKED to the chopper and was SITTING in the door when kissed. (One bleeds out quickly with a severed jugular and definitely does NOT walk!) Swenson is not wearing a helmet or a headset--why not? This report that was designed to support Swenson's heroics only supports the news paper reporter who said ALL of this happened AFTER the Taliban LEFT; the extraction of the wounded--both American and Afgan. Also the policing of the dead Americans occurred AFTER the Taliban left the battlefield--NOT during the fight. Swenson is credited with running a gauntlet of enemy fire to lead the remaining troops--there were only EIGHT Americans left alive and one of them was already doing the SAMETHING Swenson was doing--Meyers winning a MH--so now we are down to six soldiers--so how much area can SIX soldier cover--a football field? How far away were the Taliban? 1000 meters? (any closer and they could have taken out the armored vehicles.)--I stand by my original position--this "battle" reeks of cover-ups and troops trading valor awards."

I'm not SF and am not commenting on that part of Zlotnik's history. But he sure seems to get off on tearing down other soldiers' awards for valor.

Chris

[Maas]

Originally Posted by Txchris

Donald Zlotnik is saying on FB that Swenson doesn't deserve the MoH.

https://www.********.com/donald.zlotnik?fref=ts

Donald Zlotnik: "Interesting--last night they had a special report on the evening news showing a video where Captain Swenson helped his wounded sergeant to a chopper and then kissed him on the forehead before leaving. The news reporter stated this was a show of extreme bravery under FIRE. Yet, none of the soldiers in the background were firing or even ducking down. They were standing there watching--obviously part of the rescue TEAM that arrived AFTER the Taliban left! I also found it interesting the two medics on the chopper had helmet cameras. Why? We were told the sergeant had his juggler vein severed and was suffering from a severe neck wound--yet-he WALKED to the chopper and was SITTING in the door when kissed. (One bleeds out quickly with a severed jugular and definitely does NOT walk!) Swenson is not wearing a helmet or a headset--why not? This report that was designed to support Swenson's heroics only supports the news paper reporter who said ALL of this happened AFTER the Taliban LEFT; the extraction of the wounded--both American and Afgan. Also the policing of the dead Americans occurred AFTER the Taliban left the battlefield--NOT during the fight. Swenson is credited with running a gauntlet of enemy fire to lead the remaining troops--there were only EIGHT Americans left alive and one of them was already doing the SAMETHING Swenson was doing--Meyers winning a MH--so now we are down to six soldiers--so how much area can SIX soldier cover--a football field? How far away were the Taliban? 1000 meters? (any closer and they could have taken out the armored vehicles.)--I stand by my original position--this "battle" reeks of cover-ups and troops trading valor awards."

I'm not SF and am not commenting on that part of Zlotnik's history. But he sure seems to get off on tearing down other soldiers' awards for valor.

Chris

I knew a very old and wise Korean War Ranger SNCO. One lesson he taught me was this. If you are not there to see it, shut the fuck up.

And that goes for you and Zlotniks.

Maas

[SOTB]

Originally Posted by Maas

And that goes for you and Zlotniks.

I don't believe that TX Chris was disparaging the Capt's award, rather drawing attention to this other person who seems to have a giant desire to do so....

[Txchris]

Originally Posted by Maas

I knew a very old and wise Korean War Ranger SNCO. One lesson he taught me was this. If you are not there to see it, shut the fuck up.

And that goes for you and Zlotniks.

Maas

Maas,

SOTB is correct, I wasn't criticizing Captain Swenson or saying he shouldn't receive the MoH. I was pointing out that Zlotnik is once again attacking a valor medal recipient because he doesn't think they actually deserve it.

Chris

[Hognose]

Originally Posted by Txchris

Donald Zlotnik is saying on FB that Swenson doesn't deserve the MoH.

I'm not SF and am not commenting on that part of Zlotnik's history. But he sure seems to get off on tearing down other soldiers' awards for valor.

Guys,

Chris may not be SF, but he's a good mofo. But because he's not SF, he hasn't had a previous run-in with Z-man like the rest of us. I am SF (retired) and like lots of guys on this board, including Chris, I've been to Afghanistan.

I'm not surprised to see Zlotnik insulting, demeaning and abusing recipients of valor awards. He appears to have been a one-tour-wonder in SF in 66-67 as a 1LT XO and then after a medevac time out, finished up as a CAPO (basically, supernumerary). He served in two A-camps, A-253 for a couple months and then A-443 for three more months.

He later went back with conventional forces and commanded some kind of leg company or battery, I think. If he ever served in SF again I don't know about it.

He never served with SOG, but pisses on them at every opportunity, never was in the Mike Force, but pisses on them, did not get a high valor award, but pisses on the guys who did. He has spent the last couple years asserting that Jon Cavaiani MOH was a collaborator as a POW (he wasn't, according to the guys that were there; and of course, Zlotnik was not there) and has expressed delight that Jon is ill, which is pretty ate up but it's so very typical of Zlotnik's evil, debased, degraded, self-aggrandizing and phony character.

So naturally, this great hero and arbiter of what is what in Afghanistan, where he has never been (see a pattern emerging?) wants to piss on Will Swenson and Dakota Meyer.

FUCK HIM.

Not everybody who ever passed the Q was a good human being. We had J. Keith Idema, and Donald Zlotnik, to name two. Zlotnik is a little man who can only inflate himself by attacking men he's unfit to share a paragraph with. Did I say, "Fuck him?" Indeed. With a barbwire condom.